jdev - 2023-10-09

One small UI/UX question, when a message get moderated and/or retracted, are you keeping a trace of the old message bubble with "moderated/retracted" in place of the body ?

Or do you prefer to totally remove the bubble.

I find pros and cons for both cases

I think keeping a tombstone is generally the better UX

Because I was also thinking of the Ephemeral Messages case https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0466.html

I'm no expert, but removing something completely will be confusing if someone else starts resonding to whatever was removed. I'd suggest keeping at least some reference to context.

In the end you'll have lots of messages from a conversation that will be deleted after a while.

Signal is basically clearing the UI completely.

most UIs I know keep a placeholder

even if it just says "Some messages were deleted"

and I think that's good ✏

I think a compromise would be a placeholder, plus entirely remove deleted messages at the start of the log beyond a certain age

Many deleted messages could also be collapsed into one "sevral messages retracted" box, maybe expandable

Will be fun to hack the bubble generation code to remerge things together :D

> Many deleted messages could also be collapsed into one "sevral messages retracted" box, maybe expandable Thats what cheogram does yeah ↺

Do you have a way of displaying the previous versions of this message, to keep both the author and moderator accountable?

In cheogram? No. That would be a good addition though

I'm not sure that's unconditionally a good addition.

jonas’, why not?

Link Mauve, it re-exposes material which may be unsettling for users (if that was the reason it was removed in the first place)

it can be gated behind an "are you sure dialog"

sure

but yeah the ui needs thinking

im not sure how it should even be named to make sense

jonas’, if the moderation adds a reason for the removal, and the user clicks it anyway, it’s the user’s fault.

do we have a "reason" field for moderation? i.e. can moderators put a mark on why a message was removed?

yeah

that would be good (like github has "spam", "off-topic", etc. reasons for deletion)

Link Mauve, right, I wasn't aware that we had such reasons

cheogram and gajim has

(my clients don't support moderation)

have*

(and because I'm online with my client all the time, I only see the things as they happened, not as they were redacted)

(so please excuse my ignorance)

(No worries, neither does my client.) ✏