jdev - 2024-08-27

moparisthebest, jonas’, MattJ, in poezio we use the lower half block Unicode character (▄) to display coloured pixels in every terminal, as none of the ones I use support sixel.

The library we use, ncurses, also limits us to 256 colours, and that’s very low to render good images, so I didn’t pursue inline images much afterwards…

I have written a much better renderer for roezio, using true colours, which is supported by many terminals, but sadly not tmux which is what I mainly use, because it to uses ncurses…

wat?

tmux doesn't support true colors?

sad

Very.

dtach < screen < tmux less is more ;)

Do screen or dtach support true colours?

dtach supports nothing, therefore supports everything

I expect dtach does, I think it mostly passes stuff through?

Last I used screen it was only just adding support for the screen-256color TERM.

Right, but no pane support or anything I guess given the name.

Soon: images in console clients. Next: video calls!

Link Mauve, correct, dtach supports *only* detaching and re-attaching a tty

MattJ, I actually started writing that in poezio looooong ago, adding the required Jingle extensions to slixmpp, but I have no interest in Python any longer.

I assume roezio is Rust-based?

But since I run it on my server and seldom locally, I didn’t continue on that either.

i mean the tox console client supports video calls for a long time now. time for xmpp to catch up :P

just shell out to mpv --vo=sixel :D

and pipe the video stream through an ssh channel if you have to!

Kev, yes, and mostly not developed at all atm.

jonas’, nowadays there is gst-meet which is also Rust-based and is compatible with Jitsi Meet and allows any Gstreamer pipeline.

Link Mauve, but can it do --vo=sixel?!

So outputting to sixel or whatever just boils down to picking (or writing) the right Gstreamer element.

jonas’, none of my terminals support sixel, so I don’t even know.

I'm happy with screen and miss nothing

I’d first implement Unicode half block support to support every terminal, and only then look into newer image formats.

Menel, does it support true colours nowadays?

It supports true colors yes. I think there was a some point in the past some slow development and everyone switched to tmux. But as far as I know there is basically feature parity mostly now

Neat, I’ll have a look someday. :)

I never used screen, started with tmux instead and never looked elsewhere.

same

Menel, it does? I thought screen only does 256 colors

If my eyes don't betray me it has true colors. https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/GNU_Screen Has it. For some versions of screen

Screen v5

So people will go through all the trouble of using sixels instead of writing x11 or wayland applications? :)

I do write Wayland applications as well, just overcoming the limitations of terminals is fun. ^^

wow

Link Mauve: time to upgrade to zellij sounds like 😁 seriously though it's great, I never miss tmux

moparisthebest, does it support true colours?

Yep

I use it in alacritty which drops down when I hit f12, either with tdrop on anything X or leftwm

Yakuake user here, with generally dozen tabs and tiles on it

I used yakuake for over a decade before switching to tdrop+alacritty+zellij <3

Yakuake here too

moparisthebest, is there a way to make zellij waste less screen space? I’m only on 1366×768 so every character counts.

Having just a single line with the tabs would be good, and one line or column to separate the panes instead of two. ✏

Yes, that's a built in theme iirc, just not the default, let me see...

Link Mauve: https://code.moparisthebest.com/moparisthebest/dotfiles/src/branch/master/zellij/config.kdl#L262 pretty sure just default_layout "compact"

Thanks. :)

moparisthebest, it still has the ugly green border around the pane, but it’s already much better thanks. :)

With pane_frames false it’s usable, yay!

Also simplified_ui true here, I'm sure you'll tweak until you like it :)

Aaaaaah, M-j doesn’t work, that’s like the one keybind I use the most in poezio!!!

Neither does ^P.

regarding poezio, I find that the latest version can't load any plugins.

or, well, the version on void.

You probably should open an issue.

perhaps.

Link Mauve: because other things are bound to them maybe? Try rebinding keys... I think it even has a tmux mode but I haven't used it

Aside from these few things, it seems *much* slower than tmux at basically everything, including displaying my applications. :(

It has already used 1:39 of CPU time, against 6:02 for tmux which has been running for a week.