jdev - 2024-09-24

for https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0085.html what should I do when the user clears out the text box? that's not really "paused" so I guess I should send "active" ?

also the 30s for paused feels like a *very* long time. is that what number people are using in practise?

> for https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0085.html what should I do when the user clears out the text box? that's not really "paused" so I guess I should send "active" ? Going to `active` seems sensible to me ↺

Gajim sends active if the textbox i cleared

Gajim sends after 10s paused

lovetox: thanks

i also dont send active instantly after the textinput is cleared

i wait 2 seconds if the user types again

i dont know anymore why i put this in, but i think i saw very much activity, and this was the solution to reduce it

if you do CTRL + A, delete, and want to write something else

you send 2 stanzas instantly

What i also did, have a timer for the remote chatstates

if the contact sends composing, and then 30 seconds nothing anymore, i put them back on active

to counteract implementatin bugs, which sends composing, and then not active again if nothing is sent

users complained some contacts stayed forever on composing

and in general the whole tracking chatstates is a very buggy process

do users usually send something (or <paused/>) within 30 seconds of starting to type?

yes, i would say most messages are short on IMs

obviously i did no study on the 30s ..

but nobody complained yet

definitely varying with different users, some type for ages and send dosens of lines worth of forum posts

And some

Send it

In real time

Like this

My father in law

Makes me uneasy 🙂

But that

Is the

IRC way

What about people who edit ✏

What about people who edit a lot? ✏

So I can passed a few messages form other chat, would like some corrections or thoughts on it

I'm always uneasy editing long messages because I know how it sometimes displays 💀

Luckily we can also edit the IRC weigh

*way

s/weigh/way/

And people who eat ham and jam and spam a lot?

Eggs bacon and spam?

He even send literal ... When he's thinking. And I come from a country where sms still costs money. /rant

Menel: that's just funny

And your fault. Why use SMS? Onboard your family to xmpp. 😊

It wasn't over SMS. But still. I used to compose messages very carefully, fit it all in one message. And then this...waste. It just feels wrong.

Then you can write a prosody plugin to collapse his messages, win/win