jdev - 2024-10-10

ethereal. I sense that the download button, as realized on a narrower display, could be improved.

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/54b8f0c3-8aa9-40c0-816f-12926950d115/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2007-34-16%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/4095d59b-088b-42ef-bbb5-e49588e98623/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2007-33-33%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

Perhaps a ribbon style be appropriate?

Or changing its colour.

I'm developing an xmpp client and trying to mess around with posting content to pubsub, are there any lightweight clients that publish to nodes that I can play with? I know web based ones exist but trying to find something simple before I install something complex

Im sending a pubsub iq from client but not seeing anything in xml console :(

nandi. You can try Rivista. https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Rivista https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/vNqcMooy3pqRAZ8Yb8grr1 It is also HTML based, yet you can use it from desktop. ✏

nandi. You can try Rivista. https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Rivista https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/vNqcMooy3pqRAZ8Yb8grr1 It is also HTML based, yet you can use it from any desktop comupter with Python installed. ✏

> I'm developing an xmpp client and trying to mess around with posting content to pubsub, are there any lightweight clients that publish to nodes that I can play with? I know web based ones exist but trying to find something simple before I install something complex nandi. You can try Rivista. https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Rivista https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/vNqcMooy3pqRAZ8Yb8grr1 It is also HTML based, yet you can use it from any desktop comupter with Python installed. ✏ ↺

thnx i'll check it out

You are welcome!

can it post or is it just for node viewing?

> can it post or is it just for node viewing? N. It can not, yet. Currently, it is only a node viewer. ✏ ↺

> can it post or is it just for node viewing? No. It can not, yet. Currently, it is only a node viewer. ✏ ↺

how do people create nodes? is movim the only client?

nandi. If you want to post items, then you can try Blasta. https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta Change the value of key "node_id" to "urn:xmpp:microblog:0" https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/Blasta/src/branch/main/configuration.toml#L15 Presentation https://video.xmpp-it.net/w/cfozoUeVLFbBFMCCSCJ1Dn

thnx i'll check it out

ethereal. I have kept the top bar and reduced its size upon reducing width.

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/112b6dae-034b-4460-8fdf-244337677e40/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2009-39-59%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/648f580e-fa73-46a6-afa8-6f4111356d27/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2009-39-29%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/694cd243-f3d3-498e-bfae-72ad14a6a692/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2009-39-48%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

Should the shadow of the top bar be removed in narrow display?

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/6b4587af-d579-450a-85ce-87e8d6bc3867/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2009-40-34%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

It can be replaced by a line (i.e. border).

https://xmpp.pimux.de/file_share/9a196b10-255c-4954-b10b-22afd2a07c3e/Screenshot%202024-10-10%20at%2009-46-16%20XMPP%20Message%20Schimon%20Zackary.png

nandi: Libervia has a CLI frontend with feature-full pubsub support.

You can work with XML directly, or at a higher level if you wanna work with blogs.

nandi. Yes. Libervia is a better solution. Sorry. I have forgot about `libervia-cli`.

I think I got rate limited or something with my other account

the downsides of bot building heh

been using slixmpp, good library, pretty low level but has easy api

took me way too long to realize that disco==discover

nandi_, I use "disco" too. This might be useful to you https://git.xmpp-it.net/sch/FASI/src/branch/main/fasi.py#L739

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hello, can someone explain to me how double-ratchet is handling out-of-order messages? signal docs highlights only decryption, but CKS is updated during decryption, and therefore it seems to me that you can't encrypt until you decrypt messages… so you would need some kind of total message ordering, but again, nothing about that in docs

am i reading this wrong?

hello

hello! ✏

hello!, guest33275

is there any bridges into this MUC?

matrix bridge for example

shka: i can not explain it, but it does handle out of order I have tests for that

> shka: i can not explain it, but it does handle out of order I have tests for that oh, i know that it does handle out of order, i just can't see where :D ↺

and how

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Looks like pwgen output lol.

it seems my jid nandi@converesations.im is blocked from muc? Not sure how to debug that. other services seem to work

seems like I can receive messages as well, jsut not send

gajim and dino are locking up also now randomly, not sure if that's related. note to self, do dev on test account heh

what does this mean? [10:56:45] *** snom has been removed from the room due to technical problem

its probably because of the big spam messages

GTK clients can have problem with big messages

I would appreciate if the moderators retract those messages

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true, dino has a problem

i am using it right now

lovetox: if GTK can only display messages of X characters shouldn't you truncate them to that many instead of crashing or whatever?

we do, the current limit is 5000

but we tested only with one message back then

not with someone writing 20

I remember I bricked my Conversations install once this way lol, actually it was a crash in the sqlite built into Android

seems we need to limit this more

it is not crashing, just gets for a long time unresponsive while gtk spends endless time calculating text break points and resulting layout

ah here it was https://codeberg.org/iNPUTmice/Conversations/commit/6313c3c92e2bad0988e8f45e76c1d65713be1447

I had just moved my cronjobs from using sendmail to using sendxmpp and a long one ruined everything...

> it is not crashing, just gets for a long time unresponsive while gtk spends endless time calculating text break points and resulting layout yeah it doesn't crash it just freezes ↺

been messing around with jupyter console and slixmpp makes a nice little xml console that you can control with python

https://upload.yax.im/upload/NBiMjqfMc8k1VrOBEZOAdPJY/image.png

nostalgia: https://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/affiliates/wv/wv_white_paper.pdf ✏