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nephele
Asking here since i figure someone might know. Do "open" providers for RCS exist? can one build something like that oneself? Could I bridge this via XMPP to be able to use RCS messaging on my desktop?
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wgreenhouse
nephele: the challenge would be getting anyone else's provider to talk to you. same for VoLTE
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wgreenhouse
these are both telco-designed protocols so the federation is "telcos trusted by other telcos"
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wgreenhouse
jmp is trying to get an RCS implementation going but this is one of the barriers
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nephele
Hmm, I suppose aslong as there is a provider willing to provide one access (for a desktop computer, or a gateway) that would be enough for such a bridge?
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nephele
I was not aware of jmp, it looks like they provide such a bridge for "normal" audio calls?
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wgreenhouse
yes, and SMS/MMS
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singpolyma
Given how RCS is implemented at the moment (every major north american carrier delegates to Google's server, more or less) getting access is basically convincing Google to talk to you
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singpolyma
Which they are willing to under limited parameters via a few gatekeepers who want to charge heaven and earth for access
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singpolyma
But they keep saying it's opening up more post apple. Remains to be seen
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ukko
RCS is stinky and should be avoided like plague.
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citrons
does apple use google servers?
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singpolyma
citrons: yes
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citrons
dire.
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moparisthebest
The whole situation is rather hilarious to me, imagine putting all this effort into something Google will just turn off 🤣
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moparisthebest
Something about those who don't learn from history being doomed to repeat it
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singpolyma
Well, if google turns it off the carriers will run their own (or more likely pay a different aggregator to do it)
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moparisthebest
More likely switch back to SMS or turn it off all together
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singpolyma
They (the carriers) have put quite a lot of time and money into it to just abandon. They know SMS won't be enough forever and they want to keep that revenue
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ukko
Plus the data
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moparisthebest
They and Google put a ton of time and money into things then abandon them constantly
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moparisthebest
I assume it's a tax write-off or something because they do it like their business depends on it