jdev - 2024-10-21

Jo

Matrix encryption works pretty well in my limited experience. I had a new client on mobile which I couldn't verify with an existing one, so it told me with big warnings that I wouldn't be able to access chat histories because of it, and generated a new "backup key". And when I provided that key to the other client on desktop for verification, messages histories became available on mobile ✏

I don't know how this is put together behind the scenes, but it seems less uncompromising than OMEMO style PFS where, unless you put the effort to backup and restore (which no beginner does), you lose history

> I don't know how this is put together behind the scenes https://nebuchadnezzar-megolm.github.io/

> Nah everyone should be hosting their own and no one in between should be able to tell XMPP from https from websocket from NFS etc, not even domain name I mean, unless they glance for a moment at the traffic patterns. There's been papers for years showing that types of traffic are readily deductible even on encrypted channels. Even going as far as detecting who is speaking when on calls. ↺

> 5223 hasn't really ever been a thing though, the default ports are 5222 for starttls and 443 for directtls and quic 5223 predates XMPP being a thing ;)

> > 5223 hasn't really ever been a thing though, the default ports are 5222 for starttls and 443 for directtls and quic > > 5223 predates XMPP being a thing ;) When will XMPP become a thing? OK, at work we use XMPP for IoT, so it interconnects things already :-) ↺

XMPP never was, and always will be, a thing.

> I don't know how this is put together behind the scenes, but it seems less uncompromising than OMEMO style PFS where, unless you put the effort to backup and restore (which no beginner does), you lose history /me wants 🐂️ ↺

> When will XMPP become a thing? > OK, at work we use XMPP for IoT, so it interconnects things already :-) Things on XMPP ? Tox ? ↺