jdev - 2026-04-13

Do people send <https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0184.html> when fetching messages from MAM?

also I guess it seems unlikely that receipts are stored in mam? so if you don't get one while connected you just never know the status of that one I guess?

say i want to make a bot that edits people's messages in an muc as a moderator, what xep would i use and how would i make a bot just a moderator and not an admin on a prosody server for example

wouldn't that have to be a muc module on the server?

a module could do it without being either, a bot would need to join as one

yeah, moderators can't edit messages really. but a module certainly can

though some clients choose not to display the edits to the sender

ok

then i'll make it admin, but which xep would i use to patch messages?

> though some clients choose not to display the edits to the sender for those clients i'd want it to show up ad a separate message ↺

wasn't "fastening" or whatever used for this? i was told this was deprecated

taba detected

> then i'll make it admin, but which xep would i use to patch messages? You can only do this as a server operator ↺

Then you impersonate the user and send Last Message Correction stanzas from them

Or rewrite messages before they get sent to everyone else

a module to allow a bot or other to do it is possible but I'm curious on the use case

What is the proper venue to report issues spotted in XEP's?

The standards mailing list

Was hoping for a MUC <😔>

There is xmpp:xsf@muc.xmpp.org?join but it depends on the extent of the issue

You can report in the MUC but if you want to be sure then the mailing list

They're not like security issues, just an XML typo in one and a reference to an element which no longer exists as of RFC 6120 in another ✏

or open the PR directly

> a module to allow a bot or other to do it is possible but I'm curious on the use case singpolyma: embedding media files from links ↺

> wasn't "fastening" or whatever used for this? i was told this was deprecated can anyone elaborate on this ↺

>> a module to allow a bot or other to do it is possible but I'm curious on the use case > > singpolyma: embedding media files from links Sounds like you want a module for sure then imo ↺

i already almost have that module depending what exactly you want might be a tweak

https://modules.prosody.im/mod_muc_cache_media.html

>> a module to allow a bot or other to do it is possible but I'm curious on the use case > > singpolyma: embedding media files from links Pretty sure you can already do this ↺

if its that then you wouldn't even need message correction tbh

Smh, just impersonate users and send whatever

It's so easy

>> >> singpolyma: embedding media files from links > > Pretty sure you can already do this HOW ↺

just send an oob element with a url set

thats it

i mean embed in other people's messages

as an admin

Ohh

:trollface:

if an admin wants to do it manually the module would probably have to have some kind of ad-hoc command maybe? usually you'd just do this automatically

i mean an admin bot

You're just converting their links to oob basically if they didn't add it themselves V

can a bot user even modify other people's messages?

No

> can a bot user even modify other people's messages? iirc no ↺

okay that's what i thought

Not without special access to the muc

but isn't this just like the pastebin module

Yes, if a module gives it someway to do so

You can make a module that gives certain users a privilege to modify messages

true though i assume that defeats the point of wanting a bot

back in my days you could moderate someone's message to say something else for fun

Changing swears into different words with the same start for e.g. "Shut the functional up" "Son of a bittersweet" "Piece of sharp" etc

thoughts on mellium.im? are they dead?

is the code quality ok?

Medium dead, medium quality

I use it for certwatch

I always thought that's the most complete and maintained library for golang… But I never used it myself.

I tried to use it for something, but it was missing some functionality. Can't remember what... I ended up using the one by Process One, but had to fix a bunch of stuff (I ended up forking it).

So yeah, I was also under the impression that there were a range of decent libraries for Go, and it turned out all of them had problems of some sort ✏

> I tried to use it for something, but it was missing some functionality. Can't remember what... I ended up using the one by Process One, but had to fix a bunch of stuff (I ended up forking it). Ooh can you send me a link to your fork ↺

> thoughts on mellium.im? are they dead? Way too complex in my opinion ↺

by the end there'll be 50 bad go libraries

Sunglocto, I hesitate because I'm not keen on becoming anyone's dependency. I maintain it for my own use and as long as it does what I need, I may never make another commit. Nevertheless: https://github.com/mwild1/go-xmpp

> Sunglocto, I hesitate because I'm not keen on becoming anyone's dependency. I maintain it for my own use and as long as it does what I need, I may never make another commit. Nevertheless: https://github.com/mwild1/go-xmpp in that case he can just fork the fork 🧌 ↺

> Sunglocto, I hesitate because I'm not keen on becoming anyone's dependency. I maintain it for my own use and as long as it does what I need, I may never make another commit. Nevertheless: https://github.com/mwild1/go-xmpp Thanks ↺