jdev - 2026-05-29

is there any way to escape styling characters in https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0393.html ?

not really

unfortunate

you can use `<unstyled/>` but that's not well supported either

I do support it though

> you can use `<unstyled/>` but that's not well supported either eh i dont wanna unstyle the whole message, just deactivate one character ↺

the XEP suggests you could use invisible whitespace for that, but at that point maybe just switch to XHTML-IM to get full control

in this case im converting matrix html formatting to xep0393, and im trying to handle like if someone has an _ in their text inside an italic block

> the XEP suggests you could use invisible whitespace for that, but at that point maybe just switch to XHTML-IM to get full control hm thats actually a good idea, and i could use xhtml-im but the point is to make it match what most xmpp clients seem to render ↺

yeah, I do generate xep0393 from html for other clients, but for complex cases I sort of assume it's not going to be perfect

im pretty much exclusive to gajim at the moment (no android device) so i also dont have much real world testing for if the xhtml-im conversion is even right (though tbh i could probably just pass it on mostly raw and it be fine)

you could test with <https://app.cheogram.com> if you're interested in seeing that

eh probably not at the moment, id have to faf about with setting up a wellknown or whatever the http endpoint is, as it seems i still cant specify the raw websocket url

indeed

also my impression is that xhtml-im is not very common these days, but again that could be because i use only gajim

really depends which corner of the ecosystem you're in, yeah

I mean if you're getting HTML input already the conversion is pretty simple

> I mean if you're getting HTML input already the conversion is pretty simple thats kinda what i was thinking, id imagine i can just remove the things i need to remove, and at worst things that dont match will get flattened ↺

like <b> is <b>

is <code> a universal thing> thats the only one i can think of off the top of my head that might translate well

mostly you just need to make sure you convert to well-formed syntax (no mismatched end tags, /> for self closing tags)

does anything support https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0449.html ?

What's the xep for the inline images on cheogram ✏

What's the xep for the inline images on cheogram? ✏

pounceandmiss2: https://xmpp.org/extensions/#xep-0449-implementations

> What's the xep for the inline images on cheogram? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0071.html ↺

What's the xep for giant text

probably just XHTML-IM? I haven't seen anything else that would affect text size

What's the xep known for security problems

All of them 🙂

My uhh client suddenly switched fonts

And UI styles

For no reason whatsoever

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