jdev - 2026-07-30

theTedd, hmm. but https://xmpp.org/software/?category=clients&xeps=0439 shows exactly zero clients with support. So the fact that the xep exists doesn't mean much in this case.

I was wondering about supporting it, but I think I need FDP first.

> theTedd, hmm. but https://xmpp.org/software/?category=clients&xeps=0439 shows exactly zero clients with support. So the fact that the xep exists doesn't mean much in this case. Well the time for the xep is past I think. That style of bot fad didn't last long ↺

For bot interaction probably. I can see that it does speed up interaction with computer systems (server processes) though, if that server process doesn't have a web ui (or the device you're working on doesn't do both at the same time very well, like a phone or tablet).

Probably want ad hoc commands for that? Something more structured than suggested bot messages

> jjj333_p (any pronouns) wrote: > what lib are you using? I’m using xmpp.py ↺

> I’m using xmpp.py huh. typically for python id recommend slixmpp ↺

wouldn't bot message suggestions be able to offer a more direct interface? ad hoc commands are usually "hidden" deep down in menus; for the response suggestions, I'd expect that it would be possible to have a UI rendering which renders closer to the actual message which wants the response.

an app can choose to "hide" message suggestions deep in the menu too. We can suggest they have a good UI in either case but the protocol doesn't make a difference for that

adhoc commands are nice if you want to query the bot for something

but how would it look the other way around

the bot wants to message you, there is not really a message that says, hey execute that adhoc command on me

You can include a list of ad hoc commands in a message. It's in the xep. We use this in practise