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19:44:35 Ge0rG edhelas: block multi line messages from strangers. Also pastebin links
19:45:58 edhelas how ?
19:46:48 Zash Bother ejabberd devs about porting mod_firewall?
19:51:53 Ge0rG edhelas: migrate to prosody! 🤣
19:52:04 edhelas eheh
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20:33:57 Holger > Code expressions are powerful, and allow unconstrained access to Prosody's internal environment. This part will be non-trivial to port :-)
20:34:32 Zash Just include all of Prosody
20:34:46 Holger And I'm not sure I'd go for Lua patterns rather than regular expressions. So I guess real-world rule sets wouldn't work unmodified.
20:34:57 Holger That said, I'm thinking about porting this as well.
20:35:58 Holger Zash: :-)
20:36:47 Zash Lua patterns are roughly a subset of regular expressions
20:37:03 Zash And probably is, in the language theory sense
20:37:28 Zash People tend to think of PCRE and similar when they hear "regular expressions"
20:37:29 Holger Well you can't pipe them as-is into regex functions.
20:37:48 Holger Zash: So do I :-)
20:38:07 Zash A bunch would work if you s/%/\\/
20:38:35 Zash Notable exceptions are - which is like *? and %bxy which is ... not regular IIRC
20:39:05 Holger Yes I know them, I did quite a bit of Lua actually (before Prosody even existed) :-)
20:40:54 Holger They're just fine, I'm just unsure implementing them (or loading 'luerl' just for this purpose) would be worth it.
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20:41:40 Zash PCRE is supposedly huge compared to the Lua pattern implementation
20:41:54 Holger Absolutely, but it's loaded anyway.
20:42:35 Holger Apart from that the syntax is probably more familiar to most admins.
20:43:05 Holger Then again, my only goal in implementing this would be loading Georg's rules, so what do I care about admins.
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20:43:20 sam I feel like doing PCRE in a network firewall type situation is a bad idea; you're just going to end up with administrators writing rules that will trigger infinite recursion when people send malicious packets
20:43:53 sam You probably want actually-regular regular expressions that can run in linear time (there's probably a word for that)
20:43:55 Zash And how much of mod_firewall you wanna be compatible with
20:44:14 Zash sam: That might actually be "regular expressions"
20:44:28 sam Zash: "real regular expressions"?
20:44:38 Zash But I haven't studied this, so what do I know
20:44:55 sam Huh, I wonder why my name is "sam" all of a sudden.
20:45:10 Zash Who are you?
20:45:13 Zash ???
20:45:13 sam An imposter
20:45:16 Zash !!
20:46:02 sam my mcabber config has not changed; maybe the wrong value is stored int he bookmark or something.
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20:46:58 sam Oh, it thinks my nickname is already in use… that's odd, my phone is not using it, so I have no idea what I left logged in.
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20:47:28 SamWhited Test
20:47:30 SamWhited That's better.
20:50:28 Zash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chomsky-hierarchy.svg
20:50:38 Zash That stuff
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20:55:55 Zash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regular_language#Formal_definition
21:00:28 SamWhited Maybe I'll start calling them "regular regular expressions", since the first regular is ignored by Perl et al. and apparently is meaningless
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21:32:06 Ge0rG SamWhited: just call them cat expressions, because they look like typed by a cat running over the keyboard
21:41:59 SamWhited Ge0rG: this is true, but that doesn't distinguish them from PCRE style regular expressions, or anything written in Erlang.
21:42:26 Zash catjabberd
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21:46:09 Ge0rG JabberCat
21:46:59 Zash That sounds familiar
21:47:24 SamWhited https://github.com/jabbercat/jabbercat
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