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https://xiaoyu.net:7443/httpfileupload/a3109f0d-bb4f-4543-a76e-ede7b0c631e7/V7Kxuv24TBWt1JMEZynTHQ.jpg
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yon
xmpp check not normal work
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i am using.ecc cert
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ThurahT
that's a screen shot if I ever saw one
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now check.messaging.one
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hi
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Hi
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edhelas
spam from swissjabber.li
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edhelas
blacklisting also this server
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Ge0rG
just blacklist *@swissjabber.*
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Ge0rG
> dujin2320@swissjabber.eu wants to subscribe
just got that
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edhelas
i cannot blacklist with .*
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edhelas
any idea of all the extensions ?
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Internet search gives https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/SwissJabber.ch
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Ge0rG
Which is ancient.
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SouL
I used to have a MUC there
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SouL
Because SwissJabber was the only server I could find that allowed like 500 people in a MUC or something like that
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SouL
maybe 700
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Maranda
O_o?
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Maranda
"allowed"
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SouL
Or could handle
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Maranda
better
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Maranda
:P
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SouL
Whatever you use to describe the participants limit :D
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Link Mauve
SouL, are there many servers with a limit?
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Maranda
Don't look here.
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Maranda
Limiting sounds like +l on IRC, that's why "handling" is better than "allowed"
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Link Mauve
Are you expecting scaling issues in MUC?
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Maranda
Yes, are you not?
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Maranda
:P
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Link Mauve
Given the very small amount of resources used normally by my servers, no.
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SouL
Link Mauve, I don't know actually. At that time I didn't even had my own server or anything. So I just kept browsing public servers with Psi+ until I found that one, when modifying the MUC settings, the limit would be really big, compared to the ones I used to use.
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Link Mauve
SouL, at least in Prosody, there is no limit setting.
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Maranda
Hmm each message or presence stanza sent to the muc *needs* to get reflected 700 times, does that ring a bell?
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Maranda
just to begin with.
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Link Mauve
Maranda, so you’re expecting 700 packets to take your network to its knees?
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Ge0rG
presence traffic on a MUC is O(N²)
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Maranda
^
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Holger
Link Mauve: Prosody has MUC traffic limits I keep running into with legitimate traffic, though.
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Ge0rG
mod_muc_limits is absolutely inadequate.
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Link Mauve
Holger, you mean mod_muc_limit, the one limiting the amount of concurrent messages?
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Ge0rG
The queue is filled up with CSNs and then your actual messages are rejected.
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Ge0rG
https://prosody.im/issues/988
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Link Mauve: Probably. I just receive the error stanzas :-)
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Link Mauve
Note that this is a community module, not part of the server.
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Link Mauve
If operators use it, they’re on their own.
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Holger
Link Mauve: So there's some Prosody user in the community who believes that MUC scalability might be an issue :-)
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Holger
Link Mauve: If they don't, they're not on their own? :-)
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Link Mauve
Holger, AFAIK, it’s not a solution to scalability, but a solution to random spammers who used to flood MUCs.
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Holger
DoS against MUC is easy because MUC doesn't scale.
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Maranda
Just that that the rtc of most public traffic (presence and messages) in is O(N^2) as Ge0rG pointed out, is enough to tell you how well MUC scales Link Mauve.
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Link Mauve
Maranda, rtc?
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Maranda
I think you don't need another reason.
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Maranda
Running Time Complexity?
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Maranda
brb
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Maranda
tbh while mod_muc_limits isn't perfect it looked to always be one of the few viable solutions to muc servers not getting brought down to their knees by a DoS.
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Maranda
so I wouldn't really spit on it.
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Ge0rG
I'm not spitting on it, it's in use on my server. But I wish somebody would improve it.
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Maranda
The improvements I made to it, was making the limit ratio configurable by room (with muc pluggable config), but I'm confident that could be in Prosody's as well.
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Ge0rG
adhoc commands?
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Maranda
But I'm not sure that'd fix any issue
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Maranda
no just room config
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Ge0rG
Maranda: not in default 0.10 MUC code :(
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Maranda
Ge0rG, https://lightwitch.org/Media/Default/Pictures/muc_limit_config.png -- it also can be (? I don't remember if it's the default) setup to ignore traffic from server buddies (xep-267)
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Maranda: way too complicated
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SouL
I like to be able to configure stuff
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Ge0rG
`[ ] Configure stuff`
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Ge0rG
`[ 75%] Stuff Stuffyness`
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Maranda
Ge0rG, also you know that mod_muc_limits doesn't drop stanzas from affiliated members right?
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Ge0rG
Maranda: I know
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-certinfo chat.jabb.ip
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Bunneh
Marzanna: Host unreachable: Server-to-server connection failed: DNS resolution failed
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-certinfo chat.jabb.im
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Bunneh
Marzanna: chat.jabb.im has a mismatched certificate issued by Let's Encrypt Authority X3
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-certinfo metronome.im
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Maranda: metronome.im has a valid certificate issued by Let's Encrypt Authority X3
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xiaoyu.net
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test site only get T result
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nuron
The TLS connection failed... You should fix that issue
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yon:
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yon
client can connect
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yon
i.using ecc cert
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yon
tls 1.2
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yon
maybe site cant test ec cert?
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https://uploads.trashserver.net/upload/5Nb8HXHOgUeORUVR/cHnnaS1hRQGd9rjIgVYPKQ.jpg
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nuron
yon:
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nuron
Maybe you haven't set an srv record? Or you haven't open this port
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yon
which port?
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yon
5222 open
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yon
should site cant.connect ec cert
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yon
i have test some clients can work
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https://uploads.trashserver.net/upload/j2VUe8q-H-DnkNT1/0tKU4erUSRClyqVDw6QuZQ.jpg
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Hmm when you have tested the TLS and it works everything will be fine
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yon
i shoud is A
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yon
Recommend a good APP for me?
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yon
i download some app not good for use
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