XMPP Service Operators - 2018-03-01

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  117. edhelas


  118. Link Mauve

    -contact chatme.im

  119. Bunneh

    Link Mauve: Contact addresses for chatme.im are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)

  120. Link Mauve

    edhelas, here.

  121. edhelas

    yup, contacted him ;)

  122. 404.city

    -contact chatme.im

  123. Bunneh

    404.city: Contact addresses for chatme.im are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)

  124. 404.city

    -contact 404.city

  125. Bunneh

    404.city: Contact addresses for 404.city is xmpp:admin@404.city (abuse)

  126. edhelas

    -contact movim.eu

  127. Bunneh

    edhelas: Contact addresses for movim.eu are xmpp:edhelas@movim.eu (security, admin, abuse) xmpp:movim@conference.movim.eu?join (support, feedback)

  128. edhelas


  129. 404.city

    -contact jabber.ru

  130. Bunneh

    404.city: jabber.ru doesn't have any contact addresses

  131. 404.city

    -contact yax.im

  132. Bunneh

    404.city: Contact addresses for yax.im are mailto:georg@yax.im (admin, abuse) xmpp:georg@yax.im (security, admin, abuse)

  133. Ge0rG

    trouble on my server?

  134. Ge0rG

    Oh, just had a bot at jonnie2718@yax.im; killed it now

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  147. 404.city

    Ge0rG, no

  148. 404.city

    I'm playing with a bot Bunneh

  149. 404.city

    We need to ban spammers, not their bots

  150. mathieui

    why not both

  151. 404.city

    These bastards have settled on rotten servers, where they are not banned

  152. mathieui

    just ban the rotten servers

  153. 404.city

    It is necessary both, to ban their contacts, it is more effective than banning their bots

  154. Ge0rG

    404.city: I'm blocking comms to all JIDs inside the ads

  155. Ge0rG

    This is something that could backfire though.

  156. 404.city

    Ge0rG, how do you find them?

  157. Ge0rG

    404.city: I log spammy messages and have a look into new schemes regularly

  158. 404.city

    I once complained to the server administrator's spammer. Admin was in cahoots with spammers.They arranged an attack on the server 404.

  159. Ge0rG

    404.city: yeah, some servers are just operated by crazy nuts

  160. 404.city

    I complained about the contact of the spammer, not the bot

  161. 404.city

    This is the hardest hit on them. When banned spam accounts

  162. 404.city

    These bastards turn into telegrams. The telegram ignores abuses

  163. Ge0rG

    the last spam wave is run for rdpmaster@xmpp.jp by https://pastebin.com/raw/3QsfWC7T

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  165. Ge0rG

    > reklama@jabbim.com reklama@protonxmpp.ch reklama@ajabber.me

  166. 404.city

    Does anyone want to try their luck and give the abuses to the administrators of these servers?

  167. 404.city

    Some admins get money from spammers. They sell roster their users for pennies

  168. 404.city

    These bad admins send messages about abuses, directly to spammers.

  169. 404.city

    Ge0rG I'm ready to add to this sheet https://github.com/ge0rg/jabber-spam-fighting-manifesto , but so far, I do not have an account on github

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  173. Link Mauve

    Speaking of which, mathieui: https://github.com/ge0rg/jabber-spam-fighting-manifesto/pull/12

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  175. Link Mauve

    404.city, you could probably give the line you want added to Ge0rG for him to add it himself, if you prefer.

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  179. 404.city

    Link Mauve, Team 404, 404.city (https://404.city/)

  180. 404.city

    Ge0rG, Team 404, 404.city (https://404.city/)

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  195. Maranda

    I had no more spim at all from when I implemented mod_spim_block

  196. Maranda

    Spim bots are just dumb bots true story

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  199. Ge0rG

    404.city: I know I'm a bastard, but I insist on real names from people who want to sign something

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  204. 404.city

    Ge0rG, Anthony , 404.city (https://404.city/)

  205. Ge0rG

    404.city: it's slowly getting better, but we aren't there yet. Do you have an imprint?

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  213. Zash

    -contact chatme.singles

  214. Bunneh

    Zash: Contact addresses for chatme.singles are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)

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  216. Ge0rG

    singles! yay!

  217. zuglufttier

    Singles that want to chat!

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  221. Ge0rG

    what's next? chatme.roulette

  222. Zash

    chatme.(every domain possible)

  223. Ge0rG

    -contact chatme.xxx

  224. Bunneh

    Ge0rG: Could not reach chatme.xxx: Server-to-server connection failed: DNS resolution failed

  225. Zash

    untapped potential

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  227. 404.city

    Ge0rG, I do not have a inprint

  228. Ge0rG

    404.city: would you mind publishing your full name? Or do you have some cypherpunk moniker under which you are known in the community?

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  230. 404.city

    Ge0rG, I receive letters with fake orders. Do you want the hackers to enter the full real name on the fake orders?)

  231. Ge0rG

    404.city: I understand your problem. So what about the second part? ;)

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  242. 404.city

    Ge0rG, Оk. Wolf

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  255. Ge0rG

    404.city: just "Wolf"? Okay.

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  257. Maranda

    letters with fake orders :O

  258. Zash

    Fake invoices and stuff?

  259. 404.city

    Ge0rG, Add me to this list. I support the fight against spam

  260. 404.city

    Zash, yes

  261. Zash

    Forward them to your trash bin or the police?

  262. Maranda

    or both

  263. Maranda

    oh... two usb-c ports? woot? ASUS what is this sorcery.

  264. Ge0rG

    404.city: added you.

  265. 404.city

    Ge0rG, Ok. Thanks you

  266. Martin

    404.city: >Inactive accounts are automatically deleted after 404 days Lol, and mam and uploads expire after 404 days too?

  267. Maranda

    MAM can't expire

  268. MattJ

    Yes it can

  269. Maranda

    It's only an illusion, sync!

  270. Maranda

    what about sync if it expired :P!

  271. 404.city

    Martin, No mam. Uploads - 2 day

  272. MattJ

    Maranda, I've been on XMPP since ~2003... do I really need to sync 15 years of messages when I set up my new phone? :)

  273. Maranda

    MattJ, of course, and watch it explode in a thousands confetti.

  274. Maranda

    🤣 🤣

  275. MattJ

    Right. My phone is sometimes off, but never more than a few days. So MAM expiry of ~1 week seems fine to me :)

  276. Zash

    Yeah, our goal is to reproduce the Skype experience, right?

  277. Zash

    It's just not right without crashing three times while syncing on starup

  278. Maranda


  279. 404.city

    MattJ, This is a good time

  280. MattJ

    I'm working on client tracking in Prosody - at some point I'd like to just automatically remove messages that have already been received by all the user's active clients

  281. Maranda

    This is a snow time, lots of snow ®️

  282. Zash

    MattJ: Some marginal tho

  283. MattJ

    Zash, "don't delete if newer than X days"? Sure

  284. Zash

    Oh wait is "marginal" the swedish word?

  285. 404.city

    Zash, Video calls would be useful

  286. Zash

    404.city: I had that, on my phone, over XMPP, years ago. But now none of that works anymore.

  287. Zash

    MattJ: Such that replacing eg a phone doesn't eat messages.

  288. 404.city


  289. 404.city

    Jingle encrypted A/V calling Software Project: Conversations Software URL: conversations.im Software VCS URL: github.com/siacs/Conversations Software Description Conversations is a state of the art mobile instant messaging client for Android. It provides a modern user experience and is on top of the current developments in XMPP standards. Brief explanation: The ability to make voice and video calls is by far the most requested feature for Conversations. With Jingle there is a standard extension in XMPP to negoitate P2P audio and video sessions. Implementing video calls faces many challanges. Not only network and bandwidth wise but also UX wise. Quite frankly this is a rather challenging project. We aim to actually merge the code that comes out of GSoC and we can't merge the code if the UX is bad (either because of too many edge case where it simply doesn’t work or because it looks terrible.) Expected results: Make libwebrtc build in Conversations Setup some basic A/V calls between two Conversations clients Translate the SDP output of libwrtc to Jingle syntax (Re)negoitae the session on network switches or screen rotations Implement a great accept call and call UI Difficulty: Very hard Implementation Language: Java/Android Contact Details: MUC at gsoc@conference.conversations.im

  290. MattJ


  291. Zash

    Guess how many times I used the voice/video calling on my N900

  292. Ge0rG

    MattJ: you really want to break the new device use case? > at some point I'd like to just automatically remove messages that have already been received by all the user's active clients

  293. Zash

    Ge0rG: Why I said "margins"

  294. MattJ

    Ge0rG, what is the "new device use-case"?

  295. MattJ

    When setting up a new device, how much history do you expect?

  296. Ge0rG

    MattJ: dunno.

  297. Ge0rG

    I suppose 14 days should be more than enough

  298. Ge0rG


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  301. Maranda

    why 14 days of MAM history should exactly be 640KB? Intriguing 🤔

  302. MattJ

    it should be enough for everyone, Maranda

  303. Maranda

    MattJ, I'm more curious about the value.

  304. Ge0rG

    Maranda: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534312/operating-systems/the--640k--quote-won-t-go-away----but-did-gates-really-say-it-.html

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  307. Maranda

    jokes apart, I already "expire" MAM entries and with much prejudice they just "fall of after x messages"

  308. Maranda


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