XMPP Service Operators - 2018-03-01

dong3692@chatme.im

-contact chatme.im

Link Mauve: Contact addresses for chatme.im are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)

edhelas, here.

yup, contacted him ;)

-contact chatme.im

404.city: Contact addresses for chatme.im are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)

-contact 404.city

404.city: Contact addresses for 404.city is xmpp:admin@404.city (abuse)

-contact movim.eu

edhelas: Contact addresses for movim.eu are xmpp:edhelas@movim.eu (security, admin, abuse) xmpp:movim@conference.movim.eu?join (support, feedback)

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-contact jabber.ru

404.city: jabber.ru doesn't have any contact addresses

-contact yax.im

404.city: Contact addresses for yax.im are mailto:georg@yax.im (admin, abuse) xmpp:georg@yax.im (security, admin, abuse)

trouble on my server?

Oh, just had a bot at jonnie2718@yax.im; killed it now

Ge0rG, no

I'm playing with a bot Bunneh

We need to ban spammers, not their bots

why not both

These bastards have settled on rotten servers, where they are not banned

just ban the rotten servers

It is necessary both, to ban their contacts, it is more effective than banning their bots

404.city: I'm blocking comms to all JIDs inside the ads

This is something that could backfire though.

Ge0rG, how do you find them?

404.city: I log spammy messages and have a look into new schemes regularly

I once complained to the server administrator's spammer. Admin was in cahoots with spammers.They arranged an attack on the server 404.

404.city: yeah, some servers are just operated by crazy nuts

I complained about the contact of the spammer, not the bot

This is the hardest hit on them. When banned spam accounts

These bastards turn into telegrams. The telegram ignores abuses

the last spam wave is run for rdpmaster@xmpp.jp by https://pastebin.com/raw/3QsfWC7T

> reklama@jabbim.com reklama@protonxmpp.ch reklama@ajabber.me

Does anyone want to try their luck and give the abuses to the administrators of these servers?

Some admins get money from spammers. They sell roster their users for pennies

These bad admins send messages about abuses, directly to spammers.

Ge0rG I'm ready to add to this sheet https://github.com/ge0rg/jabber-spam-fighting-manifesto , but so far, I do not have an account on github

Speaking of which, mathieui: https://github.com/ge0rg/jabber-spam-fighting-manifesto/pull/12

404.city, you could probably give the line you want added to Ge0rG for him to add it himself, if you prefer.

Link Mauve, Team 404, 404.city (https://404.city/)

Ge0rG, Team 404, 404.city (https://404.city/)

I had no more spim at all from when I implemented mod_spim_block

Spim bots are just dumb bots true story

404.city: I know I'm a bastard, but I insist on real names from people who want to sign something

Ge0rG, Anthony , 404.city (https://404.city/)

404.city: it's slowly getting better, but we aren't there yet. Do you have an imprint?

-contact chatme.singles

Zash: Contact addresses for chatme.singles are mailto:assistenza@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse) xmpp:admin@chatme.im (support, security, sales, admin, feedback, abuse)

singles! yay!

Singles that want to chat!

what's next? chatme.roulette

chatme.(every domain possible)

-contact chatme.xxx

Ge0rG: Could not reach chatme.xxx: Server-to-server connection failed: DNS resolution failed

untapped potential

Ge0rG, I do not have a inprint

404.city: would you mind publishing your full name? Or do you have some cypherpunk moniker under which you are known in the community?

Ge0rG, I receive letters with fake orders. Do you want the hackers to enter the full real name on the fake orders?)

404.city: I understand your problem. So what about the second part? ;)

Ge0rG, Оk. Wolf

404.city: just "Wolf"? Okay.

letters with fake orders :O

Fake invoices and stuff?

Ge0rG, Add me to this list. I support the fight against spam

Zash, yes

Forward them to your trash bin or the police?

or both

oh... two usb-c ports? woot? ASUS what is this sorcery.

404.city: added you.

Ge0rG, Ok. Thanks you

404.city: >Inactive accounts are automatically deleted after 404 days Lol, and mam and uploads expire after 404 days too?

MAM can't expire

Yes it can

It's only an illusion, sync!

what about sync if it expired :P!

Martin, No mam. Uploads - 2 day

Maranda, I've been on XMPP since ~2003... do I really need to sync 15 years of messages when I set up my new phone? :)

MattJ, of course, and watch it explode in a thousands confetti.

🤣 🤣

Right. My phone is sometimes off, but never more than a few days. So MAM expiry of ~1 week seems fine to me :)

Yeah, our goal is to reproduce the Skype experience, right?

It's just not right without crashing three times while syncing on starup

haha

MattJ, This is a good time

I'm working on client tracking in Prosody - at some point I'd like to just automatically remove messages that have already been received by all the user's active clients

This is a snow time, lots of snow ®️

MattJ: Some marginal tho

Zash, "don't delete if newer than X days"? Sure

Oh wait is "marginal" the swedish word?

Zash, Video calls would be useful

404.city: I had that, on my phone, over XMPP, years ago. But now none of that works anymore.

MattJ: Such that replacing eg a phone doesn't eat messages.

https://conversations.im/gsoc.html

Jingle encrypted A/V calling Software Project: Conversations Software URL: conversations.im Software VCS URL: github.com/siacs/Conversations Software Description Conversations is a state of the art mobile instant messaging client for Android. It provides a modern user experience and is on top of the current developments in XMPP standards. Brief explanation: The ability to make voice and video calls is by far the most requested feature for Conversations. With Jingle there is a standard extension in XMPP to negoitate P2P audio and video sessions. Implementing video calls faces many challanges. Not only network and bandwidth wise but also UX wise. Quite frankly this is a rather challenging project. We aim to actually merge the code that comes out of GSoC and we can't merge the code if the UX is bad (either because of too many edge case where it simply doesn’t work or because it looks terrible.) Expected results: Make libwebrtc build in Conversations Setup some basic A/V calls between two Conversations clients Translate the SDP output of libwrtc to Jingle syntax (Re)negoitae the session on network switches or screen rotations Implement a great accept call and call UI Difficulty: Very hard Implementation Language: Java/Android Contact Details: MUC at gsoc@conference.conversations.im

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Guess how many times I used the voice/video calling on my N900

MattJ: you really want to break the new device use case? > at some point I'd like to just automatically remove messages that have already been received by all the user's active clients

Ge0rG: Why I said "margins"

Ge0rG, what is the "new device use-case"?

When setting up a new device, how much history do you expect?

MattJ: dunno.

I suppose 14 days should be more than enough

640KB!

why 14 days of MAM history should exactly be 640KB? Intriguing 🤔

it should be enough for everyone, Maranda

MattJ, I'm more curious about the value.

Maranda: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2534312/operating-systems/the--640k--quote-won-t-go-away----but-did-gates-really-say-it-.html

Ohhhh

jokes apart, I already "expire" MAM entries and with much prejudice they just "fall of after x messages"

:P