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06:43:50 philipp > As a client user, how do you migrate an account with its settings and roster and notify all contacts about the change? If this is not the right place to ask this, could you give me a hint where to get this information?
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13:58:11 MattJ philipp, there is no easy answer right now
13:58:37 MattJ In theory a client could do this. I think Gajim had some stuff to help with migrating accounts, but it's been some time
14:00:07 nuron Where is bunneh?
14:02:01 philipp Thank you, MattJ. That's a start, I'll check what Gajim offers. It was difficult to find info about this on the web and I was surprised because in a decentralised system like Jabber this seemed like a basic feature to me
14:02:20 MattJ Yeah
14:02:34 MattJ There was a tool around many years ago, which would help with this
14:02:44 MattJ It was web-based (PHP I believe) and anyone could host a copy
14:02:54 MattJ But I haven't seen it anywhere for a long time
14:03:04 philipp I even found an XEP but it was long deprecated
14:03:17 MattJ Deprecated or deferred?
14:03:42 philipp Let me check if I'll quickly find it again
14:04:29 philipp Rejected: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0015.html
14:04:54 MattJ Ah right, that's a really old one
14:05:20 MattJ A better candidate these days would be https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0283.html
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14:05:58 MattJ There is also https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0227.html which was implemented by some servers, but it was mainly used for transferring accounts from one server implementation to another (by admins)
14:07:33 philipp Thanks, good to know. I had heard of this feature for server admins, but this is something quite useful for client users, too
14:07:50 MattJ So rather than the XEP-0015 way, I think it's better for a client (either built into existing clients, or a dedicated client just for migration) to manage the process
14:08:19 MattJ It's already possible today to make a client that downloads all the data from one account, and upload it to a second account
14:08:37 MattJ Notifying contacts is the only thing missing, and that's what XEP-0283 is for
14:08:51 MattJ So... someone just needs to write this tool :)
14:10:38 philipp OK, maybe I can hack together some script using an XMPP library
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14:13:01 philipp I'll look into this newer XEP and try to implement something. Then this could hopefully be integrated in a client
14:14:00 philipp Given the deferred status of the XEP, is this is a reasonable way to proceed?
14:20:24 MattJ philipp, sure. Deferred just means nobody has worked on the XEP for some time, which usually happens when there are no implementations
14:20:44 MattJ philipp, if you implement it, you should write to the standards mailing list and maybe we can get the XEP back on track
14:20:55 MattJ Just give some feedback, etc.
14:21:21 philipp All right, thanks, I know basically nothing about the standard processes
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