XMPP Service Operators - 2018-06-26

  1. seantodd

    If I were to change my SRV records to remove the chat.* part of my JID, would any of my users need to do anything different, other than point themselves at seantodd.co.uk?

  2. Ge0rG

    seantodd: they would change their JIDs to the new domain, reconfigure their clients and lose their rosters.

  3. seantodd

    ‎Ge0rG‎: so it would be the same as starting over?

  4. Ge0rG

    yeah, basically

  5. Ge0rG

    seantodd: I didn't realize you have a user base when I made that proposal. Sorry :)

  6. seantodd

    It's a userbase of 2. :)

  7. seantodd

    ‎Ge0rG‎: well, 2 other users.

  8. Ge0rG

    Oh, then it depends on the cumulative roster size and anticipated effort. I wish https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0283.html was better suited.

  9. seantodd

    Excellent. I've been considering wiping my instance and starting over, this might be a good reason to do so.

  10. Ge0rG

    seantodd: sounds like it.

  11. Ge0rG

    seantodd: another caveat: some networks don't properly resolve SRV, and then your client will fall back to the regular A record

  12. MattJ

    Yeah, that's why Prosody warns you now if it detects a "chat." or "xmpp." subdomain, so you can fix it early

  13. Ge0rG

    what about "jabber."?

  14. seantodd

    Ge0rG‎: Good to know. I'll err on the side of pretty(& short) JIDs.

  15. Ge0rG

    seantodd: some clients (*cough*yaxim*cough*) will not re-try resolving SRV, so if it fails on first attempt, only killing the client will fix it again

  16. seantodd

    Ge0rG‎: Hmm. The only clients that are currently using my instance are gajim, conversations and converse.js (via bosh).

  17. Ge0rG

    seantodd: should be fine then

  18. seantodd

    Do you run your instances for fun? Or is it part of your job? Or a bit of both?

  19. Ge0rG is running a private server for a decade now, and a public one for yaxim users, as a hobby

  20. Ge0rG

    the latter since 2013

  21. seantodd

    Damn. Thats a long time. Do you have a preferred server, like ejabberd/prosody?

  22. Ge0rG

    Yes, I do.

  23. seantodd

    :D Do you mind sharing it, or would you rather not?

  24. Ge0rG

    seantodd: it's highly subjective, so it might not apply to anybody else but a grumpy cynical old-school nerd.

  25. seantodd

    ‎Ge0rG‎: Ah, that's fine.

  26. Ge0rG

    seantodd: what I can tell you is: - prosody has an awesome framework for spam blocking and filtering. it's like iptables for spam messages - ejabberd has a faster and more all-in-one development process, where you get all the modern features from the main package already, without needing to rely on third-party modules

  27. seantodd

    ‎Ge0rG‎: That's exactly the sort of anecdotal evidence I was going for! Thanks.

  28. Ge0rG

    seantodd: if you want a one-click install for a mobile-client friendly small-scale installation and you are not a victim of xmpp spam, ejabberd is probably the more robust solution

  29. Maranda


  30. UsL

    Bunneh, help

  31. UsL

    -uptime siacs.eu

  32. Bunneh

    UsL: siacs.eu doesn't reply to uptime/last activity requests (No module is handling this query)

  33. UsL

    -ping siacs.eu

  34. Bunneh

    UsL: Pong from siacs.eu in 0.053 seconds

  35. UsL

    -version siacs.eu

  36. Bunneh

    UsL: siacs.eu doesn't reply to version requests (No module is handling this query)

  37. Licaon_Kter

    UsL: have patience https://twitter.com/iNPUTmice/status/1011707510116495362

  38. UsL

    ah, thanks. I thought it was my end.