XMPP Service Operators - 2019-01-07

  1. debacle

    I get a lot of invitation spam from blackjabber.com and unstable.nl. Are those well-known spammers? (Is this the right MUC to discuss spam/spim anyway?)

  2. Ge0rG

    debacle: blackjabber.com is a well-known abandoned server

  3. Ge0rG

    unstable.nl probably as well

  4. Ge0rG

    I'd love to add both to https://github.com/JabberSPAM/blacklist but nobody had the time so far to contact them and document it

  5. Ge0rG

    But it's a good reminder to run my spam stats again.

  6. debacle

    Ge0rG: So far only one server on the list? otr.chat

  7. Ge0rG

    debacle: yes

  8. Ge0rG

    debacle: do you have time to write abuse reports? ;)

  9. debacle

    I would first need to learn how to do that properly.

  10. Ge0rG

    debacle: which server implementation do you run?

  11. debacle

    prosody 0.11

  12. Ge0rG

    that was the right answer! 😁

  13. debacle

    Almost true: prosody 0.11*.1*

  14. Ge0rG

    messages bots domain ---------- ---------- ------------------------------------ 19110 4363 safetyjabber.com 14258 8565 blackjabber.com 5078 1641 jabber.hasufell.com 4717 1370 jabber.cd 4225 1064 legalize.li 4118 1497 incognito.cf 2639 1956 unstable.nl 1586 1130 jabber.sampo.ru 1373 876 jabber.crans.org 1151 465 securejabber.me

  15. Ge0rG

    German ISPs not handling abuse@, today: Strato AG

  16. Neustradamus

    debacle: yes I have published a big list from me and other too

  17. MattJ

    Neustradamus, but your list includes servers that have not been asked to fix anything - the admins of most of them are probably unaware there is any problem

  18. MattJ

    and then you punish legitimate users of those servers by blocking them

  19. Ge0rG

    MattJ: but Neustradamus has published a list!

  20. Neustradamus

    I have of course contacted a lot of XMPP server admins ^^

  21. Ge0rG

    I just realized that pvpctutorials.de is a dyndns box

  22. mightyBroccoli

    Neustradamus, it is about the documentation. Blocking out of the blue will not help anyone.

  23. Neustradamus

    Yes yes

  24. Ge0rG

    Of the dozen or so reports I sent, four hosts were shutdown, and half of the others reduced / stopped spam

  25. Ge0rG

    Anyone got a contact at SafetyJabber / SJ?

  26. Maranda


  27. Neustradamus

    Ge0rG: I have published links from ML previously on XSF

  28. Ge0rG

    Neustradamus: I'm not interested in links from ML, I'm interested in documentation of how you contacted the server admins and when.

  29. Ge0rG

    Neustradamus: I gave you the link to the blacklist README already.

  30. Neustradamus

    Email from SJ is on it...

  31. Neustradamus

    I search ML links for you

  32. Ge0rG

    Neustradamus: thanks

  33. Neustradamus

    [jdev] clients list,.. https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-January/thread.html [jdev] adding to list https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-February/thread.html [jdev] clients list,.. https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-March/thread.html https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/jdev/2013-April/thread.html

  34. Ge0rG

    Neustradamus: that's a five year old gmail address.

  35. Neustradamus

    Yes yes it is about SJ

  36. Neustradamus

    Time passes so quickly

  37. Ge0rG

    Just saying that the personal gmail of a developer from five years ago hardly qualifies as contact data for a server operator

  38. Neustradamus

    it is a good start ^^

  39. Ge0rG

    do you want to contact that gmail and ask whether they are officially responsible for the xmpp server?

  40. Neustradamus

    You are the best to do it :)

  41. Ge0rG

    Neustradamus: no, you are better than me in running after people and reminding them of things

  42. pep.


  43. pep.

    Ge0rG, I think you're pretty close nonetheless

  44. pep.

    You don't explicitely poke people, you just rant where it's visible :P