XMPP Service Operators

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00:38:40 Douglas Terabyte Is it okay to ask unrelated questions in here?
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00:39:51 Douglas Terabyte Is it okay to ask unrelated tech questions in here?
00:40:13 Douglas Terabyte Is it okay to ask unrelated tech questions in here? I'm pulling by hair out over SIP port forwarding.
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03:43:19 Licaon_Kter Douglas Terabyte: server setup?
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04:00:25 tom If I'm setting up a a Prosody server using a Let's Encrypt certificate, do I need to set prosody to use the normal .crt cert or the fullchain .pem cert?
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04:26:27 tom hmm
04:26:40 tom When I try to connect to my new prosody server I get a error
04:26:41 tom  <?xml version='1.0'?> <stream:stream xmlns:stream='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams' xml:lang='en' from='nuegia.net' id='2620d872-c35b-41c0-9f30-fb78b26b1022' version='1.0' xmlns='jabber:client'> <stream:error> <undefined-condition xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'/> <text xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'>No stream features to proceed with</text> </stream:error> </stream:stream>
04:27:08 tom any idea what could cause this?
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04:42:39 tom hmm
04:42:41 tom strange
04:42:43 tom xmpp# doas -u _prosody /bin/cat /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key cat: /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key: Permission denied xmpp# ls -la /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key -rw-r----- 1 root _prosody 3272 Apr 5 20:47 /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key xmpp#
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04:45:08 tom xmpp# doas -u _prosody "/usr/bin/id" uid=638(_prosody) gid=638(_prosody) groups=638(_prosody)
04:45:40 tom So if both the user and group is _prosody, why wouldn't _prosody be able to read the key?
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04:50:23 Licaon_Kter tom: can it read the folder?
04:50:35 Licaon_Kter *and execute
04:51:03 tom it needs to execute the key?
04:51:23 tom also, would chmod 0710 /etc/ssl/private be safe?
04:52:46 tom *chmod 0701
04:53:26 Licaon_Kter tom: folder...it needs to be able to read&execute the folder in order to read the file
04:53:55 Licaon_Kter 750 folder
04:54:37 Licaon_Kter And all the folders in the path...actually...
04:57:42 tom well the folder the key is in is owned by root:wheel , so I don't see how the 5 would be neccecary
04:58:47 Licaon_Kter tom: so _prosody can read the folder Folders need execute to be able to "enter" them
04:58:57 Licaon_Kter *can't read
04:58:57 tom the groups over in #openbsd@freenode.net tell me that it's not correct to have a 5
04:59:05 Licaon_Kter tom: good luck
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05:00:45 tom thanks Link Mauve
05:00:57 tom *licaon_Kter
05:01:16 tom scratch that
05:01:51 tom Is there any way to have Prosody run as root and then drop privileges?
05:02:15 tom so that it can read the private keys on startup?
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05:15:31 tom also
05:16:43 tom if I have SRV records to my domain pointing to xmpp.mydomain.net
05:17:04 tom so that I can have my JID and my email be the same thing
05:17:32 tom Do I need to have the TLS certificate registered to xmpp.mydomain.net or mydomain.net?
05:17:58 tom also, is it required there to be an alternative name conference.mydomain.net for tls cert ?
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06:16:30 MattJ tom: if mydomain.net is the identity you are hosting, that's what you need a certificate for
06:17:31 MattJ The network hostname of the machine can be different and doesn't need a certificate, it isn't used within XMPP
06:18:15 MattJ And generally, yes, you also need to include any services you host such as MUC domains
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07:44:50 madmalkav To be honest, I always want to investigate about the reason for those services to require it's own subdomains but I always remember when I'm busy with other stuff
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08:00:25 tom well for email, DNS has the MX record
08:00:42 tom I don't think something like an MX record exists for XMPP
08:00:48 MattJ It does
08:00:58 MattJ It's called an SRV record
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08:01:22 MattJ But email doesn't do TLS very well
08:02:20 MattJ DNS is not secure, so using the hostname you discover in the MX record to verify the certificate is insecure
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08:05:25 tom when I try to contact a friend on 404.city I get an error ‎error while sending test ( Messages from strangers are rejected )
08:05:58 tom he says he never turned 'messages from strangers' off and doesn't know to to fix that
08:06:08 tom does anyone here have any idea how to fix that?
08:06:18 tom or what the problem could be?
08:08:15 Douglas Terabyte Yeah, I could totally use help with that.
08:08:44 Douglas Terabyte I checked my settings and nothing seems to be out of place to cause this.
08:09:36 Douglas Terabyte Also Hi Tom
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08:13:32 MattJ Maybe contact your server admin
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08:40:11 muppeth tom: afaik its server wide setting on 404. Your friend has to add you to his buddies first
08:40:30 muppeth Or you need to send subscription request to him
08:41:16 muppeth Its very extreme (imo) way to prevent spam but at the same time makes usage annoying for normal users
08:41:48 tom oh my, if that's so I might have accidently ignored someone
08:42:11 tom I got a subscribe request one say, And I usually don't accept those unless I chat first
08:42:32 tom but the other person never responded to anything I'd say to eventually i denied the request
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08:59:16 Licaon_Kter tom: subs req and the server side req about strangers are not related
09:00:06 tom does 404.city really get so much xmpp spam to warent that?
09:01:04 Licaon_Kter tom: its admin complains a lot so I guess s/he got fed up
09:01:54 tom strange, I didn't even think XMPP spam was really a thing.
09:02:09 tom anyways, Maybe I can ask 404's admin to whitelist my server
09:02:21 Licaon_Kter tom: its either spimpocalypse or never saw one
09:03:23 tom I see
09:03:32 tom damn spimps
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19:56:45 madmalkav Going to ser up a personal xmpp instance soon . Info about srv records on dns says the target must be an A record. Do you know if this includes ANAME records or not?
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20:11:27 Jonny why not point in SRV directly to the A record behind the NAME record?
20:12:30 Jonny I have setup A record for xmpp.rimkus.it
20:12:40 Jonny and SRV record in rimkus.it pointing to it
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22:48:26 tom madmalkav, not exactly true. my SRC records point to xmpp.mydomain.net, and xmpp.mydomain.net is a A record
22:48:49 tom and the rest of the domains, pubsub, upload, conference, etc are CNAMEs to xmpp.mydomain.com
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22:49:24 tom then for TLS certs you can add alternative names as long as they resolve
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22:53:28 tom Whenever I try to use http upload on my new server in a external muc, I get an error
22:53:47 tom Can not request upload slot
22:53:55 tom Access denied by service policy
22:54:16 tom however http upload seems to work fine for 1 on 1 private chats
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22:54:36 tom any idea what could cause this? I'm not seeing any warnings in prosody.err
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