XMPP Service Operators - 2019-04-06

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  12. Douglas Terabyte Is it okay to ask unrelated questions in here? ✎
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  16. Douglas Terabyte Is it okay to ask unrelated tech questions in here? ✎ ✏
  17. Douglas Terabyte Is it okay to ask unrelated tech questions in here? I'm pulling by hair out over SIP port forwarding. ✏
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  77. Licaon_Kter Douglas Terabyte: server setup?
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  82. tom If I'm setting up a a Prosody server using a Let's Encrypt certificate, do I need to set prosody to use the normal .crt cert or the fullchain .pem cert?
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  89. tom hmm
  90. tom When I try to connect to my new prosody server I get a error
  91. tom <!-- In Fri 05 Apr 2019 09:24:03 PM PDT --> <?xml version='1.0'?> <stream:stream xmlns:stream='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams' xml:lang='en' from='nuegia.net' id='2620d872-c35b-41c0-9f30-fb78b26b1022' version='1.0' xmlns='jabber:client'> <stream:error> <undefined-condition xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'/> <text xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'>No stream features to proceed with</text> </stream:error> </stream:stream>
  92. tom any idea what could cause this?
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  102. tom hmm
  103. tom strange
  104. tom xmpp# doas -u _prosody /bin/cat /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key cat: /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key: Permission denied xmpp# ls -la /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key -rw-r----- 1 root _prosody 3272 Apr 5 20:47 /etc/ssl/private/xmpp.nuegia.net.key xmpp#
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  107. tom xmpp# doas -u _prosody "/usr/bin/id" uid=638(_prosody) gid=638(_prosody) groups=638(_prosody)
  108. tom So if both the user and group is _prosody, why wouldn't _prosody be able to read the key?
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  110. Licaon_Kter tom: can it read the folder?
  111. Licaon_Kter *and execute
  112. tom it needs to execute the key?
  113. tom also, would chmod 0710 /etc/ssl/private be safe?
  114. tom *chmod 0701
  115. Licaon_Kter tom: folder...it needs to be able to read&execute the folder in order to read the file
  116. Licaon_Kter 750 folder
  117. Licaon_Kter And all the folders in the path...actually...
  118. tom well the folder the key is in is owned by root:wheel , so I don't see how the 5 would be neccecary
  119. Licaon_Kter tom: so _prosody can read the folder Folders need execute to be able to "enter" them
  120. Licaon_Kter *can't read
  121. tom the groups over in #openbsd@freenode.net tell me that it's not correct to have a 5
  122. Licaon_Kter tom: good luck
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  125. tom thanks Link Mauve
  126. tom *licaon_Kter
  127. tom scratch that
  128. tom Is there any way to have Prosody run as root and then drop privileges?
  129. tom so that it can read the private keys on startup?
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  134. tom also
  135. tom if I have SRV records to my domain pointing to xmpp.mydomain.net
  136. tom so that I can have my JID and my email be the same thing
  137. tom Do I need to have the TLS certificate registered to xmpp.mydomain.net or mydomain.net?
  138. tom also, is it required there to be an alternative name conference.mydomain.net for tls cert ?
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  152. MattJ tom: if mydomain.net is the identity you are hosting, that's what you need a certificate for
  153. MattJ The network hostname of the machine can be different and doesn't need a certificate, it isn't used within XMPP
  154. MattJ And generally, yes, you also need to include any services you host such as MUC domains
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  186. madmalkav To be honest, I always want to investigate about the reason for those services to require it's own subdomains but I always remember when I'm busy with other stuff
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  193. tom well for email, DNS has the MX record
  194. tom I don't think something like an MX record exists for XMPP
  195. MattJ It does
  196. MattJ It's called an SRV record
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  198. MattJ But email doesn't do TLS very well
  199. MattJ DNS is not secure, so using the hostname you discover in the MX record to verify the certificate is insecure
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  203. tom when I try to contact a friend on 404.city I get an error ‎error while sending test ( Messages from strangers are rejected )
  204. tom he says he never turned 'messages from strangers' off and doesn't know to to fix that
  205. tom does anyone here have any idea how to fix that?
  206. tom or what the problem could be?
  207. Douglas Terabyte Yeah, I could totally use help with that.
  208. Douglas Terabyte I checked my settings and nothing seems to be out of place to cause this.
  209. Douglas Terabyte Also Hi Tom
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  212. MattJ Maybe contact your server admin
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  222. muppeth tom: afaik its server wide setting on 404. Your friend has to add you to his buddies first
  223. muppeth Or you need to send subscription request to him
  224. muppeth Its very extreme (imo) way to prevent spam but at the same time makes usage annoying for normal users
  225. tom oh my, if that's so I might have accidently ignored someone
  226. tom I got a subscribe request one say, And I usually don't accept those unless I chat first
  227. tom but the other person never responded to anything I'd say to eventually i denied the request
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  231. Licaon_Kter tom: subs req and the server side req about strangers are not related
  232. tom does 404.city really get so much xmpp spam to warent that?
  233. Licaon_Kter tom: its admin complains a lot so I guess s/he got fed up
  234. tom strange, I didn't even think XMPP spam was really a thing.
  235. tom anyways, Maybe I can ask 404's admin to whitelist my server
  236. Licaon_Kter tom: its either spimpocalypse or never saw one
  237. tom I see
  238. tom damn spimps
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  745. madmalkav Going to ser up a personal xmpp instance soon . Info about srv records on dns says the target must be an A record. Do you know if this includes ANAME records or not?
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  749. Jonny why not point in SRV directly to the A record behind the NAME record?
  750. Jonny I have setup A record for xmpp.rimkus.it
  751. Jonny and SRV record in rimkus.it pointing to it
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  829. tom madmalkav, not exactly true. my SRC records point to xmpp.mydomain.net, and xmpp.mydomain.net is a A record
  830. tom and the rest of the domains, pubsub, upload, conference, etc are CNAMEs to xmpp.mydomain.com
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  833. tom then for TLS certs you can add alternative names as long as they resolve
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  837. tom Whenever I try to use http upload on my new server in a external muc, I get an error
  838. tom Can not request upload slot
  839. tom Access denied by service policy
  840. tom however http upload seems to work fine for 1 on 1 private chats
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  846. tom any idea what could cause this? I'm not seeing any warnings in prosody.err
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