XMPP Service Operators - 2019-07-21

  1. aj

    greetings all, can any xmpp oper join this muc? or do I have to be an official xmpp oper with xmpp.org

  2. tom

    what's your site aj ?

  3. aj

    tom: lecturify.com

  4. aj

    you are welcome to hang out there if you wish, we're trying to build a community chat room for an online english class

  5. tom

    doesn't appear to be publicly accessable

  6. tom

    this chat is for anyone who operates an XMPP server

  7. aj


  8. aj

    tom: can you try joining again

  9. aj


  10. aj

    that is the biggest muc on our site

  11. tom

    is not a group chat server

  12. tom

    group chat does not exist

  13. aj

    weird, i'm on it right now as are 20 other people

  14. aj

    what xmpp client are you using?

  15. tom


  16. aj

    my friend signed in using gajim, so it should work.

  17. tom

    perhaps it's only innaccesable from other jabber servers

  18. tom

    that's ok though

  19. tom

    just thought you should know

  20. aj

    it should be accessible to other jabber servers because I have a friend who is currently logged in from xmpp.jp

  21. aj

    i didn't do anything to block federation

  22. tom


  23. aj

    let me take a look

  24. aj

    1 second

  25. aj


  26. aj

    thanks for the feedback, could it be i am lacking disco or some other module

  27. aj

    hmm odd I do have disco enabled

  28. aj

    hmm apart from those logs I don't see any other issues, if you find anything please do let me know

  29. aj

    the logs I see on prosody say you connected and all was well

  30. EmleyMoor

    Still unable to make any progress getting onto the biboumi MUC

  31. pep.

    Have you reported it on that gitlab instance?

  32. EmleyMoor

    Yes, absolutely

  33. pep.


  34. EmleyMoor

    I need a workaround, not a waitaround

  35. pep.

    really? https://lab.louiz.org/louiz/infra/issues/

  36. pep.

    Ah, you reported in biboumi :p

  37. pep.

    ok he'll see it anyway

  38. pep.

    I can't do much more for you. louiz is not replying anyway and he's the author of biboumi as well

  39. EmleyMoor

    I just need some knowledgeable people. I want to find out if it's possible to configure server parameters before trying to connect

  40. pep.

    I'm happy to try and answer biboumi questions here, most folks in that channel also live here and in other channels you're joined anyway

  41. pep.

    Yes, I think we told you about ad-hoc yesterday

  42. EmleyMoor

    pep., A

  43. EmleyMoor

    Yes, but I can't see how to configure BEFORE attempting a connection. Nothing I've tried so far works for that. Once it's been attempted, it's possible

  44. pep.


  45. pep.

    Yes you can

  46. EmleyMoor

    Er, how? gajim "denies knowledge" of what I'm trying to do

  47. EmleyMoor

    (biboumi could be the one denying the knowledge, I guess)

  48. EmleyMoor

    Ah, getting somewhere...

  49. pep.

    hmm, I'm wondering if gajim wants you to have the UI to be able to show the ad-hoc command

  50. pep.

    In poezio you can do /adhoc foobar

  51. pep.

    without having any relation with foobar

  52. EmleyMoor

    Not th'issue

  53. pep.

    Then I don'T understand

  54. EmleyMoor

    Right, this is looking good. The problem I wanted to get around with biboumi is fixed... still three more IRC networks to migrate to it but all going quite well now

  55. morgan


  56. EmleyMoor is in mid-changeover from spectrum to biboumi for IRC transport - it's looking good at present, three networks to go

  57. Allie

    hopefully not a silly question, but does anyone know if there's a transport for XMPP to Matrix? The only thing I knew of was maybe using purple-matrix with spectrum, but didn't know if something else existed.

  58. Link Mauve

    Allie, there was https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-bifrost but they discontinued it as soon as they decided to spend their money somewhere else.

  59. Link Mauve

    It still has some well-known bugs, for instance you won’t be able to leave a Matrix room, ever.

  60. Allie

    Link Mauve: oh well... you'd think two open protocols would have some pretty robust transports between the two. I guess it all depends on how much interest there is in it, though.

  61. tom

    oh god matrix?

  62. Link Mauve

    Allie, correct.

  63. tom

    can we replace the tires on our card with octogins while we are at it?

  64. tom


  65. tom

    Can we replace the tires on our cars with octogons while we are at it?

  66. Allie

    tom: lol just trying to cover all the bases with a single XMPP server :)

  67. EmleyMoor has never used Matrix - and is glad!

  68. Allie

    I've played with it a little bit in the past, using Riot and such. I tried setting up a server once and it was a nightmare. I'm not sure if it's gotten any better.

  69. Allie

    I also kinda hate how it makes it look like Freenode has 9187419824719287 users all the time