XMPP Service Operators - 2019-08-18

xmpp:suicide@conference.conversations.im?join

morgan: why the sad muc?

Im feeling so bad

aj: ok

>Conversations has a grant at the moment for implementing A/V, and some money comes in from commercial requests That's good. Curious which orgranizations are requesting jingle in their conversations

tom, they're probably not requesting Jingle but A/V

is there a difference

Sure. Jingle is an implementation detail

Only the end result matters to them I'm sure, that A/V works

speaking of adding av support to things

How difficult do you think it would be to fork Gajim 0.16.9 and replace the dependence on gstreamer-0.1 and libfarstream with ffmpeg?

another thing that could be useful is reworking session management to use elogind rather than python-gnome2

that way it should be WM agnostic and work fine with i3wm etc

It's something I've been thinking about for a while now since gajim 1.X is only buildable against the gtk3 graphical toolkit, (which I and many other people I know find untolerable on a desktop) and replaces menus/icons with hamburger buttons

forces animations, bezels etc and keeps breaking it's api

me and a few others have masked updating to the gajim 1.x series until we figure something else out.

unfortunately it doesn't look like psi+ fills those needs or any other XMPP client that I know of

and Gajim 0.16.X being pretty much perfect already minus the dependence on deprecated libs for jingle extensions

I can program in python just fine, but most people I know are not programmers

and the Gajim 0.16.X code...... needs some cleanup

and uses one letter variables which I'd have to figure out what it really is and fix.

It's not like similar projects haven't been completed in the path. There was a drastic need for a plain old SIP softphone because sflphone somehow morphed into a giant multi-hundred megabyte blob with support for like 2 different p2p networks

and linphone became some sort of android-to-linux port even though it started out as a workstation program. weird. It's like they kept re-writing the whole thing from scratch every major release until the thing was practically a different program

because of this some guy decided he had enough and hunkered down to patch up TwinklePhone to build on modern systems

and now a lot of people connecting their SIP telephone service use Twinkle