XMPP Service Operators - 2019-09-10

  1. jrmu

    anyone here studied the matrix protocol before? Is it just me or is matrix mostly hype?

  2. edhelas

    It's not only hype

  3. edhelas

    They have clients that offers features and gives what people wants today. XMPP don't

  4. edhelas

    This makes people use the matrix protocol

  5. Licaon_Kter

    edhelas: I'd react to your message, but I can't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  6. mike

    when they first launched i recall they had some absolute garbage on their web site about why they didn't use xmpp, so I never looked at it again. what do they do that they couldn't have done without rolling their own backend?

  7. Licaon_Kter

    mike: let's ask Xabber and their new server...

  8. Licaon_Kter

    Is yax.im down?

  9. Licaon_Kter

    Ge0rG: ?

  10. Allie

    last I checked running a matrix server was a pain

  11. perflyst

    pip install start

  12. Allie

    for synapse? or are there other implementations now? it was really resource heavy

  13. perflyst

    Synapse yes there is something in Go i think

  14. Allie

    ah that's cool then. progress at least.

  15. Allie

    although I wish they'd just worked on xmpp instead 😕

  16. Licaon_Kter

    Dendrite in Go is WiP...

  17. Licaon_Kter

    Allie: _that XML man, it's so old, no one can use that_

  18. Allie


  19. Allie

    JSON is the one true way! because, like... reasons

  20. bowlofeggs

    but what about yaml

  21. bowlofeggs

    and toml!

  22. Allie

    wait wait... what if a messaging system was built atop YAML?!

  23. bowlofeggs

    actually we should create our own DSL for this

  24. bowlofeggs

    then we could be heroes (just for one day)

  25. Allie


  26. Ge0rG

    Allie: then users from Norway would be false.

  27. Jonny

    bowlofeggs: 🙂👍

  28. Allie

    when I'd set up matrix before it was basically silly to try an federate because like 99% of people just used the main homeservers. and then there's all the stupid bridging on freenode that makes it look like bazillions of matrix users are always logged in