XMPP Service Operators - 2019-11-08

  1. Chobbes has left
  2. Chobbes has joined
  3. Licaon_Kter has left
  4. stpeter has left
  5. stpeter has joined
  6. seantodd has left
  7. seantodd has joined
  8. jayteeuk has left
  9. jayteeuk has joined
  10. stpeter has left
  11. madmalkav has left
  12. madmalkav has joined
  13. jayteeuk has left
  14. jayteeuk has joined
  15. Jonny has joined
  16. ackerman1scott has left
  17. ackerman1scott has joined
  18. paul has left
  19. jayteeuk has left
  20. jayteeuk has joined
  21. holger has left
  22. drops has left
  23. drops has joined
  24. jayteeuk has left
  25. jayteeuk has joined
  26. patrick has left
  27. jayteeuk has left
  28. jayteeuk has joined
  29. aj has joined
  30. jayteeuk has left
  31. jayteeuk has joined
  32. Chobbes has left
  33. Douglas Terabyte has left
  34. Douglas Terabyte has joined
  35. jayteeuk has left
  36. jayteeuk has joined
  37. jayteeuk has left
  38. jayteeuk has joined
  39. holger has joined
  40. jayteeuk has left
  41. jayteeuk has joined
  42. drops has left
  43. pod has joined
  44. drops has joined
  45. ackerman1scott has left
  46. ackerman1scott has joined
  47. jayteeuk has left
  48. jayteeuk has joined
  49. Pingu from Woodquarter has joined
  50. Bakunin has left
  51. Bakunin has joined
  52. drops has left
  53. ibikk has joined
  54. drops has joined
  55. Bakunin has left
  56. Bakunin has joined
  57. drops has left
  58. holger has left
  59. drops has joined
  60. holger has joined
  61. volker has joined
  62. drops has left
  63. Bakunin has left
  64. Bakunin has joined
  65. sezuan has joined
  66. holger has left
  67. sezuan has left
  68. sezuan has joined
  69. sezuan has left
  70. sezuan has joined
  71. sezuan has left
  72. sezuan has joined
  73. drops has joined
  74. perflyst has joined
  75. sezuan has left
  76. perflyst has left
  77. xsteadfastx has joined
  78. perflyst has joined
  79. Licaon_Kter has joined
  80. drops has left
  81. Bakunin has left
  82. volker has left
  83. Bakunin has joined
  84. marc0s has left
  85. marc0s has joined
  86. perflyst has left
  87. Bakunin has left
  88. Bakunin has joined
  89. WebPigeon has left
  90. Jonny has left
  91. Jonny has joined
  92. felix has left
  93. volker has joined
  94. jayteeuk has left
  95. jayteeuk has joined
  96. Jonny has left
  97. aj has left
  98. aj has joined
  99. Maranda has left
  100. Maranda has joined
  101. Jonny has joined
  102. drops has joined
  103. jayteeuk has left
  104. jayteeuk has joined
  105. drops has left
  106. jayteeuk has left
  107. jayteeuk has joined
  108. marc0s has left
  109. marc0s has joined
  110. jayteeuk has left
  111. jayteeuk has joined
  112. paul has joined
  113. Bakunin has left
  114. Bakunin has joined
  115. debacle has joined
  116. aj has left
  117. holger has joined
  118. Bakunin has left
  119. Bakunin has joined
  120. holger has left
  121. sezuan has joined
  122. lorddavidiii has joined
  123. holger has joined
  124. drops has joined
  125. 404.city has joined
  126. jayteeuk has left
  127. jayteeuk has joined
  128. drops has left
  129. holger has left
  130. jayteeuk has left
  131. jayteeuk has joined
  132. holger has joined
  133. Licaon_Kter has left
  134. Licaon_Kter has joined
  135. Bakunin has left
  136. Bakunin has joined
  137. 404.city spam from jabber jabservice@jabbim.com jabservise@xmpp.jp quickcoin@linuxlovers.at quick_coin@exploit.im quick_coin19@jabber.sk Prof: https://telegra.ph/Flud-servis-04-10
  138. Ge0rG jabbim admins won't delete spammer accounts.
  139. 404.city Ge0rG, This is likely to be sufficient equipment to include jabbim .com in the ban list
  140. Ge0rG 404.city: step 2: escalate to ISP
  141. Ge0rG -ETIME
  142. Ge0rG Alright, yax.im is going down for a short maintenance. BRB
  143. mightyBroccoli 404.city: the blacklist Readme gives a nice overview of the overall workflow of this group.
  144. Bakunin has left
  145. Bakunin has joined
  146. Ge0rG has left
  147. Ge0rG has joined
  148. guy has joined
  149. guy has left
  150. guy has joined
  151. guy has left
  152. guy has joined
  153. jayteeuk has left
  154. jayteeuk has joined
  155. raspbeguy has left
  156. raspbeguy has joined
  157. guy has left
  158. guy has joined
  159. jayteeuk has left
  160. jayteeuk has joined
  161. guy has left
  162. guy has joined
  163. guy has left
  164. guy has joined
  165. Licaon_Kter has left
  166. perflyst has joined
  167. perflyst has left
  168. guy has left
  169. 404.city The worst thing is that blocking such servers causes negative feedback from users. At the same time, these same servers sell contact databases to spammers. When adding a contact from a similar server, a person automatically enters the spam mailing list. Then people wonder how spammers know their XMPP ID.
  170. raspbeguy has left
  171. raspbeguy has joined
  172. Martin has left
  173. Bakunin has left
  174. Bakunin has joined
  175. Martin has joined
  176. 404.city has left
  177. Licaon_Kter has joined
  178. raspbeguy has left
  179. raspbeguy has joined
  180. paul has left
  181. paul has joined
  182. Martin Do you have proof that those servers collect addresses and are not just abused from spammers for their dirty work?
  183. Martin Actually I only get spam to not existing jids. I don't know why, but I still report them as they might also have real users from other servers in their list.
  184. raspbeguy has left
  185. raspbeguy has joined
  186. paul has left
  187. paul has joined
  188. raspbeguy has left
  189. raspbeguy has joined
  190. raspbeguy has left
  191. raspbeguy has joined
  192. 404.city has joined
  193. paul has left
  194. paul has joined
  195. 404.city has left
  196. Bakunin has left
  197. jayteeuk has left
  198. jayteeuk has joined
  199. Bakunin has joined
  200. raspbeguy has left
  201. raspbeguy has joined
  202. paul has left
  203. paul has joined
  204. paul has left
  205. paul has joined
  206. paul has left
  207. paul has joined
  208. jayteeuk has left
  209. jayteeuk has joined
  210. jayteeuk has left
  211. jayteeuk has joined
  212. Jonny has left
  213. jayteeuk has left
  214. jayteeuk has joined
  215. Ge0rG 404.city [10:52]: > At the same time, these same servers sell contact databases to spammers. This is a very strong accusation. I hope you have proof of that.
  216. Martin has left
  217. Martin has joined
  218. Jonny has joined
  219. sonny has left
  220. sonny has joined
  221. 404.city has joined
  222. Bakunin has left
  223. Bakunin has joined
  224. 404.city Ge0rG, Spammers wrote to me. They offered money to protect a spam account. They also offered money for the XMPP IDs contact database. They also offered spam protection. They said that they would not send spam to 404.city and from 404.city in exchange for protecting the spammer's account. I declined the offer of spammers, but some servers may be bribed by spammers.
  225. Ge0rG 404.city: that's very interesting indeed. It puts a response I've received recently into a new light. Do you know of servers that accepted the deal?
  226. 404.city Ge0rG, >This is a very strong accusation. I hope you have proof of that. I have no evidence of this, but if the server protects spammers, the spammer probably bribed the owner of the server.
  227. Ge0rG Also what's the value in your user database if they promise not to spam you?
  228. an has joined
  229. MattJ Sell it to other spammers who will spam you :P
  230. pep. :D
  231. paul has left
  232. paul has joined
  233. paul has left
  234. paul has joined
  235. 404.city >Also what's the value in your user database if they promise not to spam you? In the router, the contacts of other servers. They buy contacts of interlocutors. This explains why XMPP IDs that are not publicly placed get into the spam database.
  236. ibikk has left
  237. pep. Wat
  238. pep. And you buy into this?
  239. 404.city >Sell it to other spammers who will spam you :P Spammers conflict with each other spamers. There is information that they order flood attacks against competing spammers.
  240. ibikk has joined
  241. 404.city > ‎pep.‎: And you buy into this? I refused to sell the any database to these spammers.
  242. pep. k
  243. pep. ("Buy into" here was meant as "believe", not literally buying)
  244. 404.city I will explain the structure of the work of spammers.
  245. 404.city The spammers are located in Russia. This makes it impossible for them to be arrested by European intelligence services.
  246. 404.city I think the intelligence services already have enough information about them.
  247. Ge0rG What if we write a bot that registers random account names at different IBR servers and tracks incoming spam.
  248. jayteeuk has left
  249. jayteeuk has joined
  250. Holger 'honeybot'
  251. Ge0rG Holger: awesome name
  252. Ge0rG Holger: do it!
  253. pep. The distribution of spam is not the same among accounts
  254. pep. Even on the same server
  255. sonny has left
  256. an has left
  257. an has joined
  258. paul has left
  259. paul has joined
  260. an has left
  261. an has joined
  262. jayteeuk has left
  263. jayteeuk has joined
  264. Martin > 'honeybot' 🥰
  265. Bakunin has left
  266. Bakunin has joined
  267. sonny has joined
  268. jayteeuk has left
  269. jayteeuk has joined
  270. Chobbes has joined
  271. Licaon_Kter > I think the intelligence services already have enough information about them. Since when is SPAM a matter for "intelligence agencies" pffft ?
  272. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: they infiltrate the spammers to obtain lists of jabber users, to be used as input for the enemy of the state blacklists
  273. Chobbes has left
  274. Chobbes has joined
  275. Licaon_Kter Ge0rG: cool story bro
  276. Ge0rG jonas’: how many outgoing c2s connections can aioxmpp handle?
  277. jonas’ Ge0rG, it depends
  278. jonas’ there is no technical limit
  279. jonas’ the only limit will be your resources
  280. Ge0rG jonas’: how hard would it be to hack something together that does IBR on a list of servers and stays logged in with a non-negative presence?
  281. Martin has left
  282. Martin has joined
  283. jayteeuk has left
  284. jayteeuk has joined
  285. Jonny has left
  286. Chobbes has left
  287. Chobbes has joined
  288. Jonny has joined
  289. Licaon_Kter Ge0rG: that sounds like what a spammer would love, bypass captcha too? :))
  290. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: you'd be surprised how many servers offer IBR with no captcha
  291. Jonny has left
  292. Licaon_Kter Ge0rG: user friendly for clients that can't, eg. CS
  293. Ge0rG There also used to be a promo video of a spam software showing off their parallel-connection tool
  294. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: IBR captchas have been circumvented in the past
  295. Licaon_Kter I guess
  296. Bakunin has left
  297. Bakunin has joined
  298. an has left
  299. an has joined
  300. drops has joined
  301. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCFmfpmz7yc
  302. Bakunin has left
  303. Bakunin has joined
  304. jayteeuk has left
  305. jayteeuk has joined
  306. Bakunin has left
  307. jayteeuk has left
  308. jayteeuk has joined
  309. Jonny has joined
  310. Bakunin has joined
  311. Bakunin has left
  312. Bakunin has joined
  313. ibikk has left
  314. Bakunin has left
  315. Bakunin has joined
  316. Chobbes has left
  317. stpeter has joined
  318. Bakunin has left
  319. Bakunin has joined
  320. Bakunin has left
  321. Bakunin has joined
  322. stpeter has left
  323. jayteeuk has left
  324. jayteeuk has joined
  325. Chobbes has joined
  326. holger has left
  327. stpeter has joined
  328. Bakunin has left
  329. Bakunin has joined
  330. holger has joined
  331. patrick has joined
  332. jonas’ Ge0rG, not that hard
  333. perflyst has joined
  334. volker has left
  335. jayteeuk has left
  336. jayteeuk has joined
  337. perflyst has left
  338. paul has left
  339. paul has joined
  340. stpeter has left
  341. Licaon_Kter Saw that Ge0rG before, between those summerian, cuieniforms, letters, there's IBR and captcha?
  342. drops has left
  343. bowlofeggs has left
  344. volker has joined
  345. drops has joined
  346. typikol has joined
  347. typikol has left
  348. drops has left
  349. drops has joined
  350. patrick has left
  351. holger has left
  352. holger has joined
  353. 404.city has left
  354. stpeter has joined
  355. 404.city has joined
  356. drops has left
  357. drops has joined
  358. madmalkav has left
  359. madmalkav has joined
  360. perflyst has joined
  361. drops has left
  362. drops has joined
  363. perflyst has left
  364. jayteeuk has left
  365. jayteeuk has joined
  366. perflyst has joined
  367. jayteeuk has left
  368. jayteeuk has joined
  369. Licaon_Kter has left
  370. Licaon_Kter has joined
  371. volker has left
  372. kmq has joined
  373. drops has left
  374. Link Mauve They never came to me to offer spam protection money. :(
  375. perflyst has left
  376. Link Mauve I’m a bit short on that lately.
  377. perflyst has joined
  378. drops has joined
  379. Jonny has left
  380. perflyst has left
  381. Jonny has joined
  382. perflyst has joined
  383. Jonny has left
  384. pep. Protection money ? :p
  385. debacle has left
  386. Jonny has joined
  387. Link Mauve Money at all. :p
  388. stpeter has left
  389. stassewicz has left
  390. stassewicz has joined
  391. Bakunin has left
  392. 404.city >‎Link Mauve‎: They never came to me to offer spam protection money. :( I think this money will not be enough for a good lawyer ;)
  393. Link Mauve Damn.
  394. Link Mauve My get rich quick plan is foiled!
  395. stassewicz has left
  396. stassewicz has joined
  397. perflyst has left
  398. perflyst has joined
  399. Bakunin has joined
  400. sezuan has left
  401. perflyst has left
  402. perflyst has joined
  403. jayteeuk has left
  404. jayteeuk has joined
  405. jayteeuk has left
  406. jayteeuk has joined
  407. perflyst has left
  408. perflyst has joined
  409. Bakunin has left
  410. Bakunin has joined
  411. ibikk has joined
  412. Jonny has left
  413. Jonny has joined
  414. lorddavidiii has left
  415. Bakunin has left
  416. Bakunin has joined
  417. lorddavidiii has joined
  418. jayteeuk has left
  419. jayteeuk has joined
  420. jayteeuk has left
  421. jayteeuk has joined
  422. Jonny has left
  423. lorddavidiii has left
  424. 404.city has left
  425. lorddavidiii has joined
  426. Jonny has joined
  427. bowlofeggs has joined
  428. stassewicz has left
  429. debacle has joined
  430. ibikk has left
  431. perflyst has left
  432. ibikk has joined
  433. jayteeuk has left
  434. jayteeuk has joined
  435. jayteeuk has left
  436. jayteeuk has joined
  437. Pingu from Woodquarter has left
  438. Jonny has left
  439. drops has left
  440. drops has joined
  441. holger has left
  442. holger has joined
  443. Chobbes has left
  444. Chobbes has joined
  445. Jonny has joined
  446. Chobbes has left
  447. Chobbes has joined
  448. pod has left
  449. pod has joined
  450. James Tait has joined
  451. stassewicz has joined
  452. 404.city has joined
  453. 404.city has left
  454. madmalkav has left
  455. Chobbes has left
  456. Chobbes has joined
  457. jayteeuk has left
  458. jayteeuk has joined
  459. jayteeuk has left
  460. jayteeuk has joined
  461. ibikk has left
  462. stassewicz has left
  463. volker has joined
  464. drops has left
  465. bowlofeggs has left
  466. drops has joined
  467. drops has left
  468. perflyst has joined
  469. holger has left
  470. holger has joined
  471. ibikk has joined
  472. kmq has left
  473. ibikk has left
  474. ibikk has joined
  475. jayteeuk has left
  476. jayteeuk has joined
  477. perflyst has left
  478. jayteeuk has left
  479. jayteeuk has joined
  480. jayteeuk has left
  481. jayteeuk has joined
  482. jayteeuk has left
  483. jayteeuk has joined
  484. drops has joined
  485. Bakunin has left
  486. Bakunin has joined
  487. jayteeuk has left
  488. jayteeuk has joined
  489. Martin has left
  490. Martin has joined
  491. Pingu from Woodquarter has joined
  492. jayteeuk has left
  493. jayteeuk has joined
  494. perflyst has joined
  495. perflyst has left
  496. perflyst has joined
  497. Frinkel has left
  498. Frinkel has joined
  499. Chobbes has left
  500. muppeth has left
  501. muppeth has joined
  502. ibikk has left
  503. lorddavidiii has left
  504. stpeter has joined
  505. ibikk has joined
  506. perflyst has left
  507. Martin has left
  508. Martin has joined
  509. madmalkav has joined
  510. WebPigeon has joined
  511. Chobbes has joined
  512. Pingu from Woodquarter has left
  513. stpeter has left
  514. WebPigeon has left
  515. WebPigeon has joined
  516. WebPigeon has left
  517. jayteeuk has left
  518. jayteeuk has joined
  519. perflyst has joined
  520. perflyst has left
  521. perflyst has joined
  522. Bakunin has left
  523. Chobbes has left
  524. Bakunin has joined
  525. jayteeuk has left
  526. jayteeuk has joined
  527. perflyst has left
  528. pod has left
  529. jayteeuk has left
  530. jayteeuk has joined
  531. bowlofeggs has joined
  532. perflyst has joined
  533. perflyst has left
  534. felix has joined
  535. perflyst has joined
  536. Jonny has left
  537. Jonny has joined
  538. jayteeuk has left
  539. jayteeuk has joined
  540. Licaon_Kter has left
  541. volker has left
  542. jayteeuk has left
  543. jayteeuk has joined
  544. Bakunin has left
  545. Bakunin has joined
  546. James Tait has left
  547. bowlofeggs has left
  548. bowlofeggs has joined
  549. perflyst has left
  550. jayteeuk has left
  551. jayteeuk has joined
  552. stpeter has joined
  553. stpeter has left
  554. bowlofeggs has left
  555. bowlofeggs has joined
  556. jayteeuk has left
  557. jayteeuk has joined