XMPP Service Operators - 2019-12-01


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  94. atom

    MattJ, ralphm Don't work s2s 404.city <=> muc.xmpp.org Is there any information about this?

  95. atom

    2019-12-01 04:33:56.045 [info] <0.26888.7>@ejabberd_s2s_in:process_closed:131 Closing inbound s2s connection muc.xmpp.org -> 404.city: Stream closed by local host: Idle connection (connection-timeout)

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    atom: 404 forces some odd tls choices on s2s, maybe https://github.com/E-404/Manifestos/blob/master/1.md

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  132. atom

    Licaon_Kter, A few days ago the connection worked. This is not like a certificate error.

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  135. Licaon_Kter

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  136. atom

    2019-12-01 02:54:58.853 [info] <0.26888.7>@ejabberd_s2s_in:handle_auth_success:181 (tls|<0.26888.7>) Accepted inbound s2s EXTERNAL authentication muc.xmpp.org -> 404.city (::ffff:208.68.163.210) 2019-12-01 04:33:56.045 [info] <0.26888.7>@ejabberd_s2s_in:process_closed:131 Closing inbound s2s connection muc.xmpp.org -> 404.city: Stream closed by local host: Idle connection (connection-timeout

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  139. atom

    spam from quickcoin@linuxlovers.at quickcoin@linuxlovers.at quick_coin19@jabber.sk jabservice@jabbim.com jabservise@xmpp.jp

  140. Licaon_Kter

    atom, the 404 closed stream is not an issue, once a new message comes itwill be connected again

  141. tom

    For some reason it dings me whenever you say atom

  142. tom

    In psi-plus

  143. Licaon_Kter

    "a_tom" "a tom" "ah tom"

  144. atom

    lol

  145. tom

    Oh

  146. tom

    I guess psi-plus needs it's regex adjusted to account for words

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    atom: report the spammers as per these instructions https://github.com/JabberSPAM/blacklist

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  207. atom

    Ge0rG, I propose to add to the spam manifest the wording on blocking the accomplices of spam mailings. The true sources of spam are not servers sending out spam, but servers providing feedback to spammers. Example jabbim.com jabb.im etc

  208. Licaon_Kter

    atom: feedback?

  209. atom

    Licaon_Kter, jabservice@jabbim.com

  210. atom

    spammer

  211. Licaon_Kter

    What does "feedback" mean?

  212. atom

    It is necessary to block the funding of spammers.

  213. atom

    Licaon_Kter, contact for order spam mailing

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  216. Licaon_Kter

    So when joespammer@spamm.im sends a spam message text "Buy cheap bitcoins and c1alis from atom@notspamme.rs" we should ban you too, right?

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  239. atom

    Licaon_Kter, Let's follow the logic. If an account atom@notspamme.rs sells spam, then it agrees to sell spam.

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  241. Martin

    atom: > The true sources of spam are not servers sending out spam, but servers providing feedback to spammers. Example jabbim.com jabb.im etc We should fight both. Report the spam to the sending server and jabbim as well.

  242. Ge0rG

    atom: hot do you know whether a given account sells spam?

  243. atom

    Ge0rG, jabservice@jabbim.com yes. the account and all server jabbim.com sell spam

  244. Ge0rG

    atom: do you have evidence?

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  246. atom

    Ge0rG, Let's come up with an even more telling name. sellspamjabberservice@jabbim.com Is your manifest designed to fight spam?

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  248. Ge0rG

    atom: but where is the line? How do you ensure that you don't become a tool in some spammer's hands?

  249. atom

    Ge0rG, Write an account jabservice@jabbim.com from a fake account and buy spam mailing. What are you fooling around. I don’t want to talk to you anymore.

  250. Ge0rG

    atom: did you write them? Do you have a log that you want to publish? Do I consider you trustworthy enough not to fake logs?

  251. atom

    Ge0rG, I gave you instructions on how to check this spammer or not. You don't want to check my evidence.

  252. Ge0rG

    atom: I'm not responsible for jabbim. I reported the issue to them and they don't want to do anything about it

  253. atom

    Ge0rG, Why is your anti-spam manifest necessary if it does not block spammers? Your manifest blocks spammers victims.

  254. Ge0rG

    atom: it blocks abandoned servers

  255. atom

    > Your manifest blocks spammers victims. >it blocks abandoned servers yep, yep, yep

  256. Ge0rG

    atom: so I need to change the manifesto in a transparent way regarding sellers accounts.

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  300. atom

    Ge0rG, I think it is necessary to improve the manifesto by including sanctions against the organizers of spam mailings and servers of accomplices. There is no other method of combating spam in the blocking context. If we want to block spam, we need to block spam funding. This is a classic practice used to block spam e-mail.

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  303. Ge0rG

    atom: and we need a transparent approach to remain credible

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  315. jonas’

    atom, my experience with email spam blocking is that the senders are blocked, not the orchestrators

  316. jonas’

    or rather, what people *think* are the senders

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  318. jonas’

    speaking from experience of being caught in a /48 (!) ban

  319. jonas’

    speaking from experience of being caught in the crossfire a /48 (!) IPv6 ban

  320. jonas’

    speaking from experience of being caught in the crossfire of a /48 (!) IPv6 ban

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