spam from quickcoin@linuxlovers.at quickcoin@linuxlovers.at quick_coin19@jabber.sk jabservice@jabbim.com jabservise@xmpp.jp
Licaon_Kter
atom, the 404 closed stream is not an issue, once a new message comes itwill be connected again
tom
For some reason it dings me whenever you say atom
tom
In psi-plus
Licaon_Kter
"a_tom" "a tom" "ah tom"
atom
lol
tom
Oh
tom
I guess psi-plus needs it's regex adjusted to account for words
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Licaon_Kter
atom: report the spammers as per these instructions
https://github.com/JabberSPAM/blacklist
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atom
Ge0rG, I propose to add to the spam manifest the wording on blocking the accomplices of spam mailings. The true sources of spam are not servers sending out spam, but servers providing feedback to spammers. Example jabbim.com jabb.im etc
Licaon_Kter
atom: feedback?
atom
Licaon_Kter, jabservice@jabbim.com
atom
spammer
Licaon_Kter
What does "feedback" mean?
atom
It is necessary to block the funding of spammers.
atom
Licaon_Kter, contact for order spam mailing
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Licaon_Kter
So when joespammer@spamm.im sends a spam message text "Buy cheap bitcoins and c1alis from atom@notspamme.rs" we should ban you too, right?
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atom
Licaon_Kter, Let's follow the logic. If an account atom@notspamme.rs sells spam, then it agrees to sell spam.
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Martin
atom:
> The true sources of spam are not servers sending out spam, but servers providing feedback to spammers. Example jabbim.com jabb.im etc
We should fight both. Report the spam to the sending server and jabbim as well.
Ge0rG
atom: hot do you know whether a given account sells spam?
atom
Ge0rG, jabservice@jabbim.com yes. the account and all server jabbim.com sell spam
Ge0rG
atom: do you have evidence?
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atom
Ge0rG, Let's come up with an even more telling name. sellspamjabberservice@jabbim.com
Is your manifest designed to fight spam?
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Ge0rG
atom: but where is the line? How do you ensure that you don't become a tool in some spammer's hands?
atom
Ge0rG, Write an account jabservice@jabbim.com from a fake account and buy spam mailing. What are you fooling around. I don’t want to talk to you anymore.
Ge0rG
atom: did you write them? Do you have a log that you want to publish? Do I consider you trustworthy enough not to fake logs?
atom
Ge0rG, I gave you instructions on how to check this spammer or not. You don't want to check my evidence.
Ge0rG
atom: I'm not responsible for jabbim. I reported the issue to them and they don't want to do anything about it
atom
Ge0rG, Why is your anti-spam manifest necessary if it does not block spammers? Your manifest blocks spammers victims.
atom: so I need to change the manifesto in a transparent way regarding sellers accounts.
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atom
Ge0rG, I think it is necessary to improve the manifesto by including sanctions against the organizers of spam mailings and servers of accomplices. There is no other method of combating spam in the blocking context. If we want to block spam, we need to block spam funding. This is a classic practice used to block spam e-mail.
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Ge0rG
atom: and we need a transparent approach to remain credible
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jonas’
atom, my experience with email spam blocking is that the senders are blocked, not the orchestrators
jonas’
or rather, what people *think* are the senders
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jonas’
speaking from experience of being caught in a /48 (!) ban✎
jonas’
speaking from experience of being caught in the crossfire a /48 (!) IPv6 ban✎✏
jonas’
speaking from experience of being caught in the crossfire of a /48 (!) IPv6 ban ✏