XMPP Service Operators - 2020-01-07


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  575. tom

    How can I read of a stdio device in linux as root without stealing the device from a session?

  576. tom

    I know how to write to a standard device but not rad

  577. tom

    Read

  578. tom

    It's like the kernel is flapping back and forth

  579. jonas’

    tom, if by stdio you mean tty, you cannot. one of the two readers will win for each byte

  580. jonas’

    learnt that the hard way

  581. tom

    » <jonas’> tom, if by stdio you mean tty, you cannot. one of the two readers will win for each byte yeah, that's what it seems like. Bytes flapping between process one and process 2 despite opening the file in non-exclusive mode

  582. tom

    Writing oddly works just fine though

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  584. tom

    Is does not appear pseudoterminals behave the same way as hardware terminals

  585. jonas’

    they do

  586. jonas’

    I learnt that effect with hardware terminals

  587. jonas’

    ttyS0 or something

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  592. tom

    I wonder if that's the same case across other unixes like BSD or solaris

  593. jonas’

    I would be surprised if not

  594. jonas’

    it would be extra work to implement it the way you expect it

  595. jonas’

    a lot of extra work

  596. jonas’

    and extra memory consumption

  597. jonas’

    possibly infinite

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  600. tom

    I see

  601. tom

    I understand why

  602. tom

    I just think it's odd at a superficial sense that you can very easily attach read-only to a Xsession if you are authorized

  603. tom

    But realtime monitoring of a terminal session, that's off the table

  604. jonas’

    that’s because X was meant for multiple clients from the beginning

  605. tom

    Architecture wise I understand it

  606. jonas’

    terminals on the other hand were point-to-point

  607. tom

    Xbeing a server with clients

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