XMPP Service Operators - 2020-01-16


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  177. alien > MattJ has written: > That's different to "nobody is" :) > Windows servers Gaming servers, GeForce Now servers?
  178. alien Hey, colleagues! I'm a bit new to Jabber administration. Nice to see such a dedicated community
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  183. Licaon_Kter alien: 👍
  184. alien Are there any working Matrix gateways for XMPP? I know that there is Spectrum and libpurple matrix plugin but they say there is an issue with capital insensitive usernames
  185. Licaon_Kter alien: why would you bother?
  186. jonas’ alien, there is the bifröst bridge, which even seems to be running/deployed somewhere, but I don’t know where
  187. jonas’ Ge0rG, do you know more about the current state of affairs? ^
  188. alien Licaon_Kter: I want to put all my IMs in one app
  189. Licaon_Kter alien: riiiight
  190. Ge0rG alien, jonas’: there is a running semi official bridge on half-shot.uk
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  192. Ge0rG And the official one will be deployed "only two weeks from now" since April
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  197. Licaon_Kter Soon™
  198. alien Ge0rG: I mean I want to self host it, but thanks
  199. Ge0rG alien: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-bifrost/
  200. MattJ Ge0rG: did you try running it?
  201. Ge0rG MattJ: no, it requires a home server
  202. MattJ :(
  203. Ge0rG but I'm sure somebody will come up with a mod_matrix_c2s based on the 1.0 protocol
  204. alien Ge0rG‎, that's not what I'm looking for. I mean I want matrix to be available inside my XMPP client, like ICQ in good old days
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  206. Ge0rG alien: yes, that's what bifröst will do for you
  207. alien Ge0rG‎, as far as I understand from READER, it's not. It's a matix puppeting bridge for libpurple and XMPP to use XMPP inside of matrix
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  212. MattJ No, I have joined matrix channels from XMPP through it
  213. MattJ And the reverse is possible, matrix devs use it to hang out in XMPP chats sometimes
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  219. Licaon_Kter > but I'm sure somebody will come up with a mod_matrix_c2s based on the 1.0 protocol 1.0 being the monolothic perpetual modifying protocol?
  220. MattJ No! The single unified standard that every Matrix implementation will magically implement in its entirety :)
  221. Licaon_Kter Soon™
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  223. Link Mauve Licaon_Kter, already more than six months ago. :p
  224. Link Mauve Although from what I’ve heard, their main client still mostly use endpoints marked unstable, and every other client has to either do the same or deal with the lack of features that ensues.
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  227. Link Mauve It doesn’t seem very pleasant.
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  229. Licaon_Kter But....the French deployment....but decentralization with matrix.org...but...
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  238. Licaon_Kter > ECDSA is one of the worst crypto algorithms in modern use OMG CVE-2020-0601 Ge0rG was right all along???!???
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  254. genofire https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2020-0601 - Windoof
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  258. jonas’ Link Mauve, something about Experimental XEPs ;)
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  270. Ge0rG Licaon_Kter: it's not a problem in ECDSA but in what kind of curve configurations windows will accept
  271. Ge0rG Of course, it's idiotic to have a design where the attacker can submit the properties of the desired algorithm. But it's even more idiotic to have an algorithm that will leak your private key if you reuse a nonce
  272. Licaon_Kter I know, implementations can foobar anything ;)
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  275. Holger > something about Experimental XEPs Sure we do the same thing, but their marketing keeps claiming they do _better_ by avoiding the fragmentation resulting from the modularity of our specs.
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  281. Ge0rG Holger: at least they *do have* marketing
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  283. Holger Indeed.
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  294. jonas’ Holger, I think the main difference is that they have a flagship client on each plattform, so they can back that claim up.
  295. jonas’ (and call all other clients "unfinished" side projects)
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  311. Ge0rG jonas’: on some platforms, they have two
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  400. alien > MattJ has written: > No, I have joined matrix channels from XMPP through it Can you give me some links on how to setup it pls?
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  407. MattJ I've never run the bridge myself. As Ge0rG noted, it requires running a Matrix server as well as the bridge, as well as your XMPP server
  408. MattJ I don't have the resources to run a Matrix server on my VPS
  409. MattJ I use the one Ge0rG mentioned, running at half-shot.uk
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  411. Martin How can one join a Matrix room from xmpp with half-shot.uk?
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  416. MattJ Martin, #room#matrix.org@half-shot.uk
  417. Martin thx
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  421. Ge0rG You can also disco#items on that domain, but it'll return invalid JIDs
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  433. Martin 16.01.20 18:10:06 - mdosch.de: Establishing a secure connection from mdosch.de to half-shot.uk failed. Certificate hash: 708dbe9a9b04bf458dba6c08496aae36cc70d2da68c2bc00f9e9cea028823a99. Error with certificate 0: certificate has expired.
  434. Martin Yeah, that looks already promising!
  435. Martin Or is this why it's called half shot? It got a cert but it's expired.
  436. MattJ I guess my s2s has stayed up
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  480. Ge0rG https://xmpp.net/result.php?id=1466209 is very interesting as well
  481. Martin Reckless? 😁
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  483. Link Mauve Ge0rG, c2s isn’t any relevant though, I started a s2s test.
  484. Link Mauve Certificate has expired it seems.
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  487. ij Using the half-shot.uk bridge also means that they can monitor every connection and every message, regardless whether or not it’s a MUC or private chat?
  488. Ge0rG ij: yes
  489. Link Mauve Ge0rG, https://xmpp.net/result.php?id=1466210
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  491. ij @Ge0rG - who’s running the bridge? GCHQ in an undercover operation? ;) Well, it’s nice to have that kind of bridges for occational use, but not more…
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  494. Ge0rG ij: NSA maybe
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  507. muppeth ij, you ask who is running half-shot bridge?
  508. ij not seriously
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  534. Ge0rG Because everybody knows that Half-Shot is
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