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Link Mauve
I remember using that.
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edhelas
so you can launch irssi within SSH over XMPP 🤔
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bowlofeggs
and you could ssh to a machine to do that
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bowlofeggs
and you could set up an XMPP <--> IRC gateway somewhere in this puzzle as well
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🤯
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mss_cyclist
Does anyone know a good European privacy disclaimer template?
If possible for the Netherlands.
It is ridiculous what you need to cover...
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GDPR#Q1.2:_What_consequences_does_the_GDPR_has_for_the_XMPP_server_operators
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mss_cyclist
Ge0rG: top. I was not aware of this. It is a really good base.
May I use this or do I have to give credits for it?
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: we developed it back in the day as a template for xmpp service operators
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: TBH, I wrote it for https://yaxim.org/yax.im/privacy/ and the it got templated
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Ge0rG: Nice. May I use your privacy and tos as a template as well?
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: feel free. just remove my name from it ;)
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mss_cyclist
Ge0rG: Thanks
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jonas’
insert obligatory "IANAL" here, Ge0rG
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mss_cyclist
Do you need to provide a lust of data which you gather from users as well as a person responsible for processing that data in Germany?
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Ge0rG
that!
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: it depends on how good your lawyers are
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mss_cyclist
Haha
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mss_cyclist
Why that?
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: because GDPR is complicated and not easy to interpret
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mss_cyclist
Yeah. In the Dutch version of it they do mention this responsible person and a list which must be at hand immediately for the authorities.
Wondering if this us part if the GDPR or if this is a Dutch speciality to make it even more difficult to offer a free XMPP service.
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mss_cyclist
s/us/is
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: I'm pretty sure it's based on the GDPR.
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: depending on how critical the data is and how much of it you hoard, you might or might not have to create "Records of processing activities"
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mss_cyclist
Ge0rG: So talking about plain standard xmpp server (ejabberd)
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: while I'm sure there is no strict legal need to outline all those things in the privacy policy, I consider it a good practice for a public xmpp service.
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: any standard xmpp server, yes
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mss_cyclist
There should be no critical data logged. Except for what the user willingly shares with other users by messaging.
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jonas’
which could be quite critical :)
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mss_cyclist
Ge0rG: So, you have such a list?
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: it's right there in the template
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mss_cyclist
Ge0rG: I did not mean this.
More like this one (docx):
https://www.dsgvo-verstehen-bayern.de/cms/upload/Downloads/Vereine/Verzeichnis-von-Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten_Stand_19.07.18.docx
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: I'm not going to open random malware
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mss_cyclist
Ge0rG: sorry.
I was searching for this link:
https://www.ldi.nrw.de/mainmenu_Datenschutz/submenu_Verzeichnis-Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten/Inhalt/Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten/Verarbeitungstaetigkeiten.html
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mss_cyclist
There are some pdf templates
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mss_cyclist
This is another dimension than these standard disclaimers I come across
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Ge0rG
mss_cyclist: hmm... right. Not sure how large the overlap is, and I'm currently not in a position to work on GDPR. Sorry
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Ge0rG: No problem. We are no lawyers. I thought this is not only an issue for me, but for all European operators.
So I was questioning myself wheater anyone else came across these additional documents which apparantly need to be kept track of.
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My prosody server keeps crashing
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11.4 linux
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No idea why. Nothing in logs
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Ellenor Malik
Switch to another jabber server
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tom
Why?
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I've changed logging level from info to debug
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Hopefully if it happens it something will say some info
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I would like to find the cause before going though all the work of converting server
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jonas’
tom, check dmesg
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lua5.2[12433]: segfault at 307be564 ip 00005649bbfa4652 sp 00007fff00a11760 error 4 in lua5.2[5649bbf92000+31000]
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I didn;t know Lua could segfault
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tom, report that in xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?joinM
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tom, report that in xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?join
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