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Martin
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Anybody knows why I get a penalty on the ciphers? https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=mdosch.de&type=server#ciphers
Martin
15:31:22
Also the cipherlist seems incomplete as cryptcheck or testssl.sh see more: https://cryptcheck.fr/xmpp/mdosch.de
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jonas’
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cipherlist doesn’t load here
jonas’
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maybe it’s not finished yet?
jonas’
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it also shows a Grade A now
jonas’
15:42:01
ah, yeah, cipherscore isn’t at 100% though
jonas’
15:42:02
not sure why
Martin
15:43:00
Yeah, I just rerun the test that's why it was not yet finished when you looked.
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mss_cyclist
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Do you experience as well that xmpp.net is fu*in' slow last time?
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Martin:
Just an idea:
> Server does not respect the client's cipher ordering.
mss_cyclist
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>TLSv1 No
>TLSv1.1 No
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Martin
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Dunno. TLS v1 is deprecated so why should I use it.
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mss_cyclist
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Sure, at least it is some feedback given. I suppose all gray fields should be green. And these exist but are gray. So I think they might be needed for max. score
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Martin
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No, actually only ciphers are not 100% so protocol level is fine.
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tom
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I don't think forcing server preferred cipher order is a good thing despite what qualsys says
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As long as you only allow string ciphers and hmacs, like AESGCM256+EDH:chacha20poly1305:ecdh (not my exact cipher line just an example) it's better to let the client pick which ones out of those it wants to use
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tom
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The client is going to know best wither or not it has AES-NI hardware offload, or if chacha20 might be a better option given it's arch
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tom
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Or if the client's entropy source is suspect and it wants to use a cipher that doesn't explode in a ball of fire spectacularly if entropy runs out mid-way through a session like chacha20
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Martin
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I think prosody/luasec does this. At least I'm not aware forcing the order.
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