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  447. Martin

    Anybody knows why I get a penalty on the ciphers? https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=mdosch.de&type=server#ciphers

  448. Martin

    Also the cipherlist seems incomplete as cryptcheck or testssl.sh see more: https://cryptcheck.fr/xmpp/mdosch.de

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  451. jonas’

    cipherlist doesn’t load here

  452. jonas’

    maybe it’s not finished yet?

  453. jonas’

    it also shows a Grade A now

  454. jonas’

    ah, yeah, cipherscore isn’t at 100% though

  455. jonas’

    not sure why

  456. Martin

    Yeah, I just rerun the test that's why it was not yet finished when you looked.

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  508. mss_cyclist

    Do you experience as well that xmpp.net is fu*in' slow last time?

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  511. mss_cyclist

    Martin: Just an idea: > Server does not respect the client's cipher ordering.

  512. mss_cyclist

    >TLSv1 No >TLSv1.1 No

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  519. Martin

    Dunno. TLS v1 is deprecated so why should I use it.

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  532. mss_cyclist

    Sure, at least it is some feedback given. I suppose all gray fields should be green. And these exist but are gray. So I think they might be needed for max. score

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  535. Martin

    No, actually only ciphers are not 100% so protocol level is fine.

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  612. tom

    I don't think forcing server preferred cipher order is a good thing despite what qualsys says

  613. tom

    As long as you only allow string ciphers and hmacs, like AESGCM256+EDH:chacha20poly1305:ecdh (not my exact cipher line just an example) it's better to let the client pick which ones out of those it wants to use

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  617. tom

    The client is going to know best wither or not it has AES-NI hardware offload, or if chacha20 might be a better option given it's arch

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  619. tom

    Or if the client's entropy source is suspect and it wants to use a cipher that doesn't explode in a ball of fire spectacularly if entropy runs out mid-way through a session like chacha20

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  637. Martin

    I think prosody/luasec does this. At least I'm not aware forcing the order.

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