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hokori696
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Hey, I'm trying to install my XMPP server on a Raspberry Pi but it don't work...
vanitasvitae
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which server?
hokori696
20:02:58
Prosody
vanitasvitae
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and what "doesn't work"?
hokori696
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Well
hokori696
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I can't connect to it
vanitasvitae
20:03:39
is it running?
hokori696
20:03:47
I think yes
vanitasvitae
20:03:48
do you have a firewall?
vanitasvitae
20:03:54
is dns configured?
hokori696
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When a make a restart I get that:
hokori696
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[ ok ] Restarting prosody (via systemctl): prosody.service.
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vanitasvitae
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you could ask in the prosody dev room. Maybe they can help? (not a prosody user)
hokori696
20:05:17
How can I go there ?
vanitasvitae
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xmpp:prosody@conference.prosody.im?join
hokori696
20:05:43
And sorry, but how can I configure the DNS?
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vanitasvitae
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well, if you want to connect to the server from "outside" of your network (i.e. not your local lan) you have to enable port forwarding in your router and configure dynamic dns in case you dont have a stable IP address.
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vanitasvitae
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here is a guide that should cover everything you need: https://jacksonjs.github.io/2016/09/09/prosodyonpi/
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Link Mauve
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vanitasvitae, it’s a bad idea to suggest self-signed certificates to beginners (or to anyone really).
Link Mauve
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This guide also uses the ssl option, which has been deprecated in recent versions of Prosody.
Link Mauve
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And the legacy non-systemd way of starting services.
vanitasvitae
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it was the best I found in 2 mins 😛
vanitasvitae
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if you have a better guide, hokori696 is still here 😛
Link Mauve
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It’s bad, you shouldn’t link it.
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Link Mauve
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At least, not without checking that it is better than nothing.
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Link Mauve
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https://homebrewserver.club/configuring-a-modern-xmpp-server.html is the guide we recommend for a modern Prosody.
vanitasvitae
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hokori696 ^
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Yep sorry
hokori696
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I already enable port forwarding
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hokori696
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And i followed this tutorial for xxmp installation http://raspberrypi.tomasgreno.cz/xmppjabber-server.html
hokori696
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xmpp*
Link Mauve
20:16:22
Eww, suggesting Pidgin. :x
hokori696
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😁
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MattJ
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Yeah, 99% of guides for Prosody are terrible
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and I grew to realise this is just true for 99% of all guides for all software setup
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pep.
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Yes. I keep failing at understanding what people like in unofficial documentations
MattJ
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Well, I know that for Prosody we don't actually have any guide/tutorial-based content right now
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In general I think the problem is that guides are either written by developers who know the project too well to make a decent guide, or they are written by random people who wrote the guide while learning how to set it up themselves
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The good guides are in the middle
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Holger
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The other problem is that even the good guides are usually not kept up-to-date.
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That too
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Ellenor Malik
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> Link Mauve has written:
> And the legacy non-systemd way of starting services.
So apparently all operating systems which are not Linux are now legacy. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Link Mauve
21:54:35
Ellenor Malik, why? And how do you infer that?
Ellenor Malik
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systemd absolutely requires Linux, and you are calling any way of starting prosody that does not involve systemd legacy.
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Link Mauve
21:58:29
Ellenor Malik, this guide is for some Debian (derivative?) running on a Raspberry Pi, it doesn’t preclude other guides being written for other platforms.
Link Mauve
21:59:08
But on Debian, it can create actual problems to mix and match methods to start Prosody.
Link Mauve
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We’ve seen users wonder why no changes were applied, only to realise they had two instances of Prosody running due to this issue.
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Ellenor Malik
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Underscoring the importance of PID files.
Link Mauve
22:00:48
Or, you know, using your init system to manage its services.
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