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07:30:57 Martin !contact mdosch.de
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08:45:08 *IM* Martin: Thanks for bringing in federation.info for discussion in this group! Comprehensible numerical values are very helpful for the argumentation (against "not enough user").
08:46:48 Martin *IM*: But those numbers will always only show a part of the ecosystem as it is opt-in and by now there is no ejabberd module for participating.
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09:47:46 *IM* True I'm at your side - exactly that's what I always say: Show here; even this numbers are a minute fraction. And with numbers it's easier to argument (part of a letter): ``` Bevor die (Fehl-)Information "Es gibt nicht genügend Nutzer" kommt: a) Es ist schwer, bei einem föderierten System eine genaue Nutzeranzahl festzustellen. Dennoch bekommt man einen kleinen Einblick auf der Seite https://the-federation.info/protocol/xmpp ... ... hier sind bei Jabber(XMPP) weit über 250.000 Chatkonten schon bei den bisher ersten hier erfassten Serven aufgeführt. Auch gibt Millionen die nicht wissen, dass sie Jabber(XMPP) nutzen: www.freie-messenger.de/sys_xmpp/versteckte_anwendergruppen ``` The same with email: Nobody knows the existing email accounts because of federated system.
09:50:04 *IM* I'm looking for a list of closed systems based/using XMPP - like WhatsApp, Zoom, ... So if you have Informations for me ... ?
09:50:58 Link Mauve *IM*, https://xmpp.org/uses/ lists a few of them.
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09:53:35 *IM* Sorry just found a typo in link: https://www.freie-messenger.de/sys_xmpp/#versteckte-anwendergruppen Here I direct to https://xmpp.org/usese/ too.
09:54:41 *IM* But I'm sure there are more systems out there.
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