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tom 07:19:18
I"m having some serious issues with Prosody 0.11.4 Linux offical debian builds
tom 07:19:35
sometimes group chat messages come with two Ids
tom 07:19:43
<message id="a126daz" to="psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru/rion☫" type="groupchat" xml:lang="en" id="85317069-b663dfgdsfg81ca2c0"> <body>test test test</body> <stanza-id xmlns="urn:xmpp:sid:0" by="psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru" id="Rv_BSCddVthPa9zo"/> </message>
tom 07:20:10
it's causing me some silently dropped messages and client crashes
tom 07:20:40
has anyone else on a prosody server been experiecing dropped messages, and if so can you look in your xml console if there are two ids?
tom 07:20:47
if so that would help reproduce this issue
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Ge0rG 07:24:32
tom: that sounds like a really weird issue. Are you sure that the two IDs weren't added by the sending client?
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Martin 07:24:45
tom: Your messages to the muc where dropped or messages from the muc to you? I am running prosody trunk on buster and am not aware of this issue but maybe I just didn't realize it. Also I had only one client crash recently which was conversations crashing due to malformed db, I don't think this is related.
Ge0rG 07:24:48
I've been running prosody 0.11 for a long while and never had duplicate @id's
Ge0rG 07:25:07
I'm regularly looking into my prosody and client logs, and I would have noticed
tom 07:25:12
the messages showed up in my xml console
tom 07:25:21
but my client did not register them at all
tom 07:25:28
probably due to that dup id field
Ge0rG 07:25:57
tom: a client shouldn't freak out when an attribute is repeated, just pick a random one from them
tom 07:26:04
Ge0rG I'm not sure, but if it was the client wouldn't they get dropped, or the s2d connection dropped for sending something like that?
Martin 07:26:07
> psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru/rion☫ Maybe that symbol is the culprit.
Martin 07:26:25
I crashed clients by picking an emoji as muc Nick.
tom 07:26:26
the unicode?
tom 07:26:41
that's the lead developer of psi+
tom 07:26:54
if that unicode doesn't work in his own client
tom 07:27:00
lol
Ge0rG 07:27:09
some servers also dislike this kind of nickname
tom 07:27:09
but no, he uses that all the time
tom 07:27:17
and the issue wasn't with rion
Martin 07:27:24
Dunno, the xmpp devs here probably know better which characters may cause problems. Some are allowed some not.
tom 07:27:26
rion was only helping me debug test test the issue
Ge0rG 07:28:06
tom: are you using Psi+?
tom 07:28:14
yeah
tom 07:28:26
but i'm having issues with it right now so i've switched to swift
Ge0rG 07:28:27
tom: is it only happening on jabber.ru or also on other servers?
tom 07:28:41
no the message dropping is happening on nuegia.net
tom 07:29:08
which runs the official build of prosody 11.4 for debian from the prosody.im debian repo
Ge0rG 07:29:29
tom: the XML you pasted above doesn't have a "from" attribute. Where exactly did you log it and was it a sent or a received message?
tom 07:29:54
so that xml was just with the to swapped out
tom 07:30:15
it was a message originally from spyware@conference.nuegia.net/metheperson
Ge0rG 07:30:19
because you can't send a "groupchat" message to a full JID
tom 07:30:35
thats the thing
tom 07:31:00
muc-private-messages where missing some feature fields too
Ge0rG 07:31:13
tom: muc private messages are typically type=chat
tom 07:31:30
weird
tom 07:31:44
I think i'm just going to sleep this one off
tom 07:31:56
come back and try to fix it tommarrow
Ge0rG 07:32:03
tom: yes, very weird. feel free to ping me again when you are fresh and awake :)
tom 07:32:14
thank you I appreciate that
tom 07:32:29
because this is hardly the first time i've suspected and had silent dropped messages
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Ellenor Malik 07:42:13
I actually had my entire prosody clear crash a couple days ago Ge0rG
Ge0rG 07:42:36
Ellenor Malik: which prosody version are you running?
Ellenor Malik 07:42:37
> Ge0rG Wrote: > because you can't send a "groupchat" message to a full JID challenge accepted ;-)
Ellenor Malik 07:42:50
Ge0rG: some old mercurial checkout
Ellenor Malik 07:43:03
from this year definitively
Ellenor Malik 07:43:22
I'm also on a really weird fork of freebsd that needs to be updated
Ge0rG 07:43:33
Ellenor Malik: 0.10, 0.11 or trunk?
Ge0rG 07:43:51
I'm currently hunting for a stacktrace of a trunk crash
Ellenor Malik 07:44:08
one of the three, for sure. It didn't stack trace, I don't think
Ellenor Malik 07:44:17
I think it just clean exited
Ellenor Malik 07:44:30
And i woke up to "pix-art: 2 of 7"
MattJ 07:45:43
~~The multiple I'd thing is 99.9999% not Prosody. More likely the receiving client messed with it. Poezio does this too I think.~~ ✎
MattJ 07:45:56
The multiple @id thing is 99.9999% not Prosody. More likely the receiving client messed with it. Poezio does this too I think. ✏
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Ellenor Malik 07:47:01
MattJ: a 6 9s guarantee is audacious.
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MattJ 07:53:56
The code that serializes attributes uses a hash table as input, and multiple keys with the same name and different values are impossible to store in those
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Ellenor Malik 07:55:13
Could this cause a problem with the Jabber protocol As She Is Spoke?
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mark 07:59:01
i need some help please
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Ellenor Malik 08:00:24
mark: what's wrong
mark 08:01:08
every time I try to set up an xmpp account in pidgin it always tells me that it cannot connect tried 5 or 6 times with different credentials
Ellenor Malik 08:01:32
wrong channel
mark 08:01:48
which channel please?
Ellenor Malik 08:02:42
also mark does the account already exist on the server or are you trying to in band register with the server
mark 08:04:23
trying to stup my first ever pidgin account qith out success i put my username, the domain with passord and click add and it goes straight to cant connect
Ellenor Malik 08:04:53
mark: but does the jabber account exist on the server
Ellenor Malik 08:05:13
or are you trying to ask the server to give you an account
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Ellenor Malik 08:05:36
if the latter, you should have the option to ask for "create this new accounton the server"
SouL 08:05:53
Maybe mark is just trying to log in with his actual account?
Ellenor Malik 08:06:11
SouL: he's here, so he has gotten on jabber omehow
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mark 08:06:40
no i use elude.in, with username name and password for the domain click add should i be clicking add me to the server
Ellenor Malik 08:06:57
i'd like to warn you that pidgin's jabber support is extremely limited and you'd be better off using something like gajim.org
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mark 08:07:20
ok thanks will try that.
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Ellenor Malik 08:07:28
mark: no, only if you are trying to create the new account
Ellenor Malik 08:07:39
if you already have the account, it is not needed to tick create
Ellenor Malik 08:08:00
"unable to connect" may mean the server is down or your ISP blocks jabber
Ellenor Malik 08:08:27
the server may also just be poorly configured and its dns may not work properly
mark 08:09:15
i thanks for the answers i will try what you have said, thanks for now, bye.
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