XMPP Service Operators - 2020-05-20


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  173. tom I"m having some serious issues with Prosody 0.11.4 Linux offical debian builds
  174. tom sometimes group chat messages come with two Ids
  175. tom <message id="a126daz" to="psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru/rion☫" type="groupchat" xml:lang="en" id="85317069-b663dfgdsfg81ca2c0"> <body>test test test</body> <stanza-id xmlns="urn:xmpp:sid:0" by="psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru" id="Rv_BSCddVthPa9zo"/> </message>
  176. tom it's causing me some silently dropped messages and client crashes
  177. tom has anyone else on a prosody server been experiecing dropped messages, and if so can you look in your xml console if there are two ids?
  178. tom if so that would help reproduce this issue
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  182. Ge0rG tom: that sounds like a really weird issue. Are you sure that the two IDs weren't added by the sending client?
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  184. Martin tom: Your messages to the muc where dropped or messages from the muc to you? I am running prosody trunk on buster and am not aware of this issue but maybe I just didn't realize it. Also I had only one client crash recently which was conversations crashing due to malformed db, I don't think this is related.
  185. Ge0rG I've been running prosody 0.11 for a long while and never had duplicate @id's
  186. Ge0rG I'm regularly looking into my prosody and client logs, and I would have noticed
  187. tom the messages showed up in my xml console
  188. tom but my client did not register them at all
  189. tom probably due to that dup id field
  190. Ge0rG tom: a client shouldn't freak out when an attribute is repeated, just pick a random one from them
  191. tom Ge0rG I'm not sure, but if it was the client wouldn't they get dropped, or the s2d connection dropped for sending something like that?
  192. Martin > psi-dev@conference.jabber.ru/rion☫ Maybe that symbol is the culprit.
  193. Martin I crashed clients by picking an emoji as muc Nick.
  194. tom the unicode?
  195. tom that's the lead developer of psi+
  196. tom if that unicode doesn't work in his own client
  197. tom lol
  198. Ge0rG some servers also dislike this kind of nickname
  199. tom but no, he uses that all the time
  200. tom and the issue wasn't with rion
  201. Martin Dunno, the xmpp devs here probably know better which characters may cause problems. Some are allowed some not.
  202. tom rion was only helping me debug test test the issue
  203. Ge0rG tom: are you using Psi+?
  204. tom yeah
  205. tom but i'm having issues with it right now so i've switched to swift
  206. Ge0rG tom: is it only happening on jabber.ru or also on other servers?
  207. tom no the message dropping is happening on nuegia.net
  208. tom which runs the official build of prosody 11.4 for debian from the prosody.im debian repo
  209. Ge0rG tom: the XML you pasted above doesn't have a "from" attribute. Where exactly did you log it and was it a sent or a received message?
  210. tom so that xml was just with the to swapped out
  211. tom it was a message originally from spyware@conference.nuegia.net/metheperson
  212. Ge0rG because you can't send a "groupchat" message to a full JID
  213. tom thats the thing
  214. tom muc-private-messages where missing some feature fields too
  215. Ge0rG tom: muc private messages are typically type=chat
  216. tom weird
  217. tom I think i'm just going to sleep this one off
  218. tom come back and try to fix it tommarrow
  219. Ge0rG tom: yes, very weird. feel free to ping me again when you are fresh and awake :)
  220. tom thank you I appreciate that
  221. tom because this is hardly the first time i've suspected and had silent dropped messages
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  231. Ellenor Malik I actually had my entire prosody clear crash a couple days ago Ge0rG
  232. Ge0rG Ellenor Malik: which prosody version are you running?
  233. Ellenor Malik > Ge0rG Wrote: > because you can't send a "groupchat" message to a full JID challenge accepted ;-)
  234. Ellenor Malik Ge0rG: some old mercurial checkout
  235. Ellenor Malik from this year definitively
  236. Ellenor Malik I'm also on a really weird fork of freebsd that needs to be updated
  237. Ge0rG Ellenor Malik: 0.10, 0.11 or trunk?
  238. Ge0rG I'm currently hunting for a stacktrace of a trunk crash
  239. Ellenor Malik one of the three, for sure. It didn't stack trace, I don't think
  240. Ellenor Malik I think it just clean exited
  241. Ellenor Malik And i woke up to "pix-art: 2 of 7"
  242. MattJ The multiple I'd thing is 99.9999% not Prosody. More likely the receiving client messed with it. Poezio does this too I think.
  243. MattJ The multiple @id thing is 99.9999% not Prosody. More likely the receiving client messed with it. Poezio does this too I think.
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  245. Ellenor Malik MattJ: a 6 9s guarantee is audacious.
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  254. MattJ The code that serializes attributes uses a hash table as input, and multiple keys with the same name and different values are impossible to store in those
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  257. Ellenor Malik Could this cause a problem with the Jabber protocol As She Is Spoke?
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  263. mark i need some help please
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  265. Ellenor Malik mark: what's wrong
  266. mark every time I try to set up an xmpp account in pidgin it always tells me that it cannot connect tried 5 or 6 times with different credentials
  267. Ellenor Malik wrong channel
  268. mark which channel please?
  269. Ellenor Malik also mark does the account already exist on the server or are you trying to in band register with the server
  270. mark trying to stup my first ever pidgin account qith out success i put my username, the domain with passord and click add and it goes straight to cant connect
  271. Ellenor Malik mark: but does the jabber account exist on the server
  272. Ellenor Malik or are you trying to ask the server to give you an account
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  274. Ellenor Malik if the latter, you should have the option to ask for "create this new accounton the server"
  275. SouL Maybe mark is just trying to log in with his actual account?
  276. Ellenor Malik SouL: he's here, so he has gotten on jabber omehow
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  278. mark no i use elude.in, with username name and password for the domain click add should i be clicking add me to the server
  279. Ellenor Malik i'd like to warn you that pidgin's jabber support is extremely limited and you'd be better off using something like gajim.org
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  281. mark ok thanks will try that.
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  283. Ellenor Malik mark: no, only if you are trying to create the new account
  284. Ellenor Malik if you already have the account, it is not needed to tick create
  285. Ellenor Malik "unable to connect" may mean the server is down or your ISP blocks jabber
  286. Ellenor Malik the server may also just be poorly configured and its dns may not work properly
  287. mark i thanks for the answers i will try what you have said, thanks for now, bye.
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