XMPP Service Operators - 2020-06-14

Hi people, xmpp noob here. Is it too hard/time consuming to operate a reliable server for personal semi-public use in Germany? Are there legal consequences? thanks

mehdi: semipublic?

ok, public. But I mean open to friends and family

I would also happily host a public node if I'm not responsible for users. hence the legal question

mehdi: I'm running mine for family only (no self-registration) without problems. Once the server is up and running I'd recommend reducing log verbosity and take additional steps to collect as little data as possible. I haven't heard of any requests for disclosure but in the unlikely event it is always best if there's nothing to disclose in the first place.

In German: "Wo ein Trog ist, da kommen die Schweine." 😉

Florian Aldehoff: haha, thanks! Not interested in Trog at all :)

I find https://www.kuketz-blog.de/ejabberd-installation-und-betrieb-eines-xmpp-servers/ a helpful guide.

Bookmarked. Perhaps I'll ask over now questions now that's you're so kind to reply. How does xmpp compare to matrix? Recently I see matrix replacing irc, and I'm somewhat confused about these two.

sorry for the typos, blame autocomplete!

Personally, I have no experience with Matrix. I've heard complaints that it can be very resource hungry compared to e.g. ejabberd. I guess the big advantage is the existing iOS client. Maybe someone else can chime in on that?

mehdi: for family and friends without free registration means private, not public That being said, you kinda trust your users so that's easier.

Regarding matrix, not sure you can cram 80 users on a Raspberry Pi 1 w/ 256Mb like you do with ejabberd. ;)

Licaon_Kter: good to know that, thanks! I'll probably use a Hetzner vm though.

:D

Then your wallet is your limit :)) ✏

mehdi, If you're using a VPS, why not just find one hosted in Iceland or Switzerland? Or, really, any country that's not a part of the 14 eyes that'll accept your payment method.

Also, matrix-synapse is pretty awesome too.

IRC will never be fully replaced. Matrix is too resource-intensive, for one, and for two, there'll always be a diehard core of IRCers

I'm not sure why XMPP hasn't taken over aside from having to say "pp". 🤣 maybe just better web mucs?

> I'm not sure why XMPP hasn't taken over Because people use what other people use, and some people invested billions into making sure people use their thing and not something else 🙂