mehdiHi people, xmpp noob here. Is it too hard/time consuming to operate a reliable server for personal semi-public use in Germany? Are there legal consequences? thanks
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Licaon_Ktermehdi: semipublic?
mehdiok, public. But I mean open to friends and family
mehdiI would also happily host a public node if I'm not responsible for users. hence the legal question
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Florian Aldehoffmehdi: I'm running mine for family only (no self-registration) without problems. Once the server is up and running I'd recommend reducing log verbosity and take additional steps to collect as little data as possible. I haven't heard of any requests for disclosure but in the unlikely event it is always best if there's nothing to disclose in the first place.
Florian AldehoffIn German: "Wo ein Trog ist, da kommen die Schweine." 😉
mehdiFlorian Aldehoff: haha, thanks! Not interested in Trog at all :)
Florian AldehoffI find https://www.kuketz-blog.de/ejabberd-installation-und-betrieb-eines-xmpp-servers/ a helpful guide.
mehdiBookmarked. Perhaps I'll ask over now questions now that's you're so kind to reply. How does xmpp compare to matrix? Recently I see matrix replacing irc, and I'm somewhat confused about these two.
mehdisorry for the typos, blame autocomplete!
Florian AldehoffPersonally, I have no experience with Matrix. I've heard complaints that it can be very resource hungry compared to e.g. ejabberd. I guess the big advantage is the existing iOS client. Maybe someone else can chime in on that?
Licaon_Ktermehdi: for family and friends without free registration means private, not public
That being said, you kinda trust your users so that's easier.
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Licaon_KterRegarding matrix, not sure you can cram 80 users on a Raspberry Pi 1 w/ 256Mb like you do with ejabberd. ;)
mehdiLicaon_Kter: good to know that, thanks! I'll probably use a Hetzner vm though.
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Licaon_KterThen your walled is your limit :))
mehdi:D
Licaon_KterThen your wallet is your limit :))
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thndrbvrmehdi, If you're using a VPS, why not just find one hosted in Iceland or Switzerland? Or, really, any country that's not a part of the 14 eyes that'll accept your payment method.
thndrbvrAlso, matrix-synapse is pretty awesome too.
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Ellenor MalikIRC will never be fully replaced. Matrix is too resource-intensive, for one, and for two, there'll always be a diehard core of IRCers
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thndrbvrI'm not sure why XMPP hasn't taken over aside from having to say "pp". 🤣 maybe just better web mucs?
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rom1dep> I'm not sure why XMPP hasn't taken over
Because people use what other people use, and some people invested billions into making sure people use their thing and not something else 🙂