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  225. kikuchiyo > Is there a way to limit the number of messages per hour per user as spam prevention? Per hour limits require mod_firewall: https://modules.prosody.im/mod_firewall.html
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  229. kikuchiyo MattJ: Please give your advise on an _anti-monologue firewall rule_ ... `%RATE monologue: 0.0083 (burst 1800)` `KIND: groupchat` `LIMIT: monolouge` `BOUNCE=policy-violation (Sending too much!)` Would this firewall definition check if a user writes more than 15 times per half hour to a MUC on that prosody server?
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  276. Licaon_Kter Typo in monologue kikuchiyo
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  290. MattJ kikuchiyo, KIND: message TYPE: groupchat
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  293. MattJ Are you trying to limit per MUC, or per user?
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  350. kikuchiyo MattJ: per user per MUC
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  355. kikuchiyo MattJ: The idea is to prevent single users from impolitely dominating public MUCs without getting answers from other participants.
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  358. kikuchiyo Licaon_Kter: soliloquy?
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  422. Licaon_Kter kikuchiyo: ?
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  498. MattJ kikuchiyo: and do you want to apply this to your users or your MUCs?
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  537. kikuchiyo MattJ: public MUCs
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  547. MattJ Ok, then you need to load mod_firewall explicitly on the MUC component, and add the firewall_scripts option under it too
  548. kikuchiyo MattJ: The longer I think about it, the more skeptical I am about whether the condition is the right approach. Actually, the point is that the share of individual users in the overall communication of a public room should not get out of hand.
  549. MattJ Yeah
  550. MattJ You would probably be better with something like an adapted mod_muc_limits
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  555. kikuchiyo MattJ: Is it possible to base the action on several conditions?
  556. kikuchiyo How could I calculate the _share_ of an individual to use it as one of those conditions?
  557. MattJ Easier to do in a module than in a firewall script
  558. MattJ And do you want total share, or total within a given time period?
  559. MattJ It's not easy :)
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  561. kikuchiyo > total within a given time period? I think that would be the best way.
  562. MattJ Maybe the easiest is probably something like "no more than N messages in a row from a single occupant"
  563. MattJ Within a time period is tricky... after an hour of silence the first person to write would have a 100% share immediately
  564. kikuchiyo MattJ: Yes, I thought about that too, but then it would limit the possibility to run a news channel.
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  578. kikuchiyo > Within a time period is tricky... after an hour of silence the first person to write would have a 100% share immediately There has to be a threshhold.
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  609. kikuchiyo > Maybe the easiest is probably something like "no more than N messages in a row from a single occupant" If this rules counter would reset after an hour or so... It could fit the needs.
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  615. kikuchiyo How about incremental delays (like brute force protection for passwords) ?
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  634. kikuchiyo MattJ: `%RATE` values would have to depend on Nₜ messages per timeframe xor Nᵣ messages in a row for a single user.
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