XMPP Service Operators - 2020-10-09

  1. tom

    I have a terms of service and privacy policy draft for my XMPP services. Would anyone mind looking over it and pointing out things they would change and why, as well as perhaps give some insight to me about problems I would face as a public XMPP operator?

  2. tom

    Is this the right place for that?

  3. thndrbvr

    Why wouldn't it be? ToS is important and it's specific to a jabber server. I'd be willing to proofread it but that's probably all I'm good for.

  4. tom

    Thank you thndrbvr

  5. tom

    Here is my draft file https://www.nuegia.net/services_draft.xhtml

  6. jonas’

    I like (6)

  7. jonas’

    > Just to be clear, disrupting services without malicious intent is perfectly ok, for example if you were attempting a security audit and disclosed your findings to Nuegia Administration. Dangerous! Someone can easily claim that they would’ve shared the findings later, once caught. I wouldn’t put out a blanket statement such as that.

  8. tom

    If they manage to get in in the first place I've failed

  9. Martin

    tom: Ge0rG put quite some effort into the yax.im one which I happily adapted for my needs. An example based on it should also be somewhere on xmpp.org

  10. Licaon_Kter

    jonas’: "if said audit was previously agreed upon with Nuegia..."

  11. jonas’

    Licaon_Kter, ..yes?

  12. Licaon_Kter

    Nothing, just adding text to help

  13. jonas’

    Licaon_Kter, send it to tom then, I don’t have +w on that :)

  14. Licaon_Kter

    tom: that page looks like $hit on mobile, c'mon

  15. Licaon_Kter

    jonas’: right, wrong mention

  16. jonas’

    Licaon_Kter, that explains my confusion, thanks :)

  17. thndrbvr

    Licaon_Kter: Fennec/Firefox reader mode I find is best for actually reading text be it news article, documentation, or legalese on desktop and mobile ;)

  18. Licaon_Kter

    thndrbvr: yes, ofcourse, but that's not an excuse for the lack of a bit of CSS, right?

  19. thndrbvr

    I imagine this is just a draft and that's all coming later. Good feedback none the less.

  20. thndrbvr

    tom: I suggest defining what "commercial purposes" are. i.e could a small company use this server internally to communicate between staff? Maybe just add a couple examples on what you want prohibited without prior permission. Starting with "including but not limited to_" I'd specifically add doxing and harassment as unacceptable things. If you don't have one yet, copy & paste a good warrant canary template from someone like Riseup.net or Puri.sm.

  21. perflyst

    > An example based on it should also be somewhere on xmpp.org https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/GDPR/Privacy_Policy_Template

  22. Ellenor Malik

    > jonas’ Wrote: > Licaon_Kter, send it to tom then, I don’t have +w on that :) Is this an IRC joke?

  23. Licaon_Kter

    Ellenor Malik: or a *nix one

  24. Ellenor Malik