XMPP Service Operators - 2020-10-10

does anyone know a deployment with a /.well-known/host-meta and/or a /.well-known/host-meta.json published? (see also: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0156.html)

I’m working on a thing which enumerates all connection methods of a service and I need test cases for that

thanks, got both!

No sorry jonas'

Btw that XEP seems really silly

I totally understand wanting different connection methods than TCP+stream management

But HTTP?

That just seems silly

I'd very much like to see a UDP based XMPP connection method though

tom: You're saying web clients are a stupid thing?

Silly, sorry.

Yes

HTTP is really a sub-optimal network transport for XMPP

Depending on environment, a technically sub-optimal solution might be the only available solution. And then there's users preferring this technically sub-optimal solutions as they perceive it as convenient.

So I'm glad there's people silly enough to build this for XMPP.

I'm just glad it's an option module

what are the bestIRC transports?

Biboumi.

What makes biboumi better than say, SPECTRUM2 or xmppy

I've used biboumi on other servers, namely snopyta

until they had to close it down to external users because some irc rbl list overreacted and banned their entire ip instead of just an ident

I've had some trouble adding irc users to my roster over biboumi, and servers with a round-robin DNS spamming my roster

getting feature not implemented when trying to add contacts

biboumi is my only irc network transport experience, I was wondering what other options were out there

I haven't tested adding individual nicks to my roster, but as per the docs that should work (<https://doc.biboumi.louiz.org/user.html>).

It's much newer than the Spectrum 2 stuff and offers a better feature mapping, various small additional features, and some significant ones such as MAM.

> until they had to close it down to external users because some irc rbl list overreacted and banned their entire ip instead of just an ident That's always the issue with offering transports on public servers. With IRC, the server ops should obviously negotiate with the IRC ops they bridge to.

why do you think that Holger? Isn't that the entire reason for the ident protocol existing? people on shared systems/mainframes/servers/network gateways not having 1 bad apple ruin things for everybody

That's not how access restrictions on today's IRC networks typically work.

How does nickserv work with biboumi?

Does it work at all? I've never gotten it to

tom: I manage nickserv to work with SASL ✏

tom: I managed nickserv to work with SASL ✏

Biboumi has ad-hoc commands that can setup SASL credentials and apply that at server connection

Alternatively, it is possible to send "ms nickserv identify" commands, but with freenode for example, you have to send that within 30sec (and this is really short) ✏

(Sorry, I'm a bit tired, I do many mistakes lol)

Do I have to generate and install some SASL keys onto the server, or is it able to use some XMPP native identity

nickserv is kind of a poor hack on irc itself =(

it's understandable why there's not an ideal way to handle it

tom: no SASL key, just credentials (username and password)