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  743. jonas’ does anyone know a deployment with a /.well-known/host-meta and/or a /.well-known/host-meta.json published? (see also: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0156.html)
  744. jonas’ I’m working on a thing which enumerates all connection methods of a service and I need test cases for that
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  747. jonas’ thanks, got both!
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  896. tom No sorry jonas'
  897. tom Btw that XEP seems really silly
  898. tom I totally understand wanting different connection methods than TCP+stream management
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  900. tom But HTTP?
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  902. tom That just seems silly
  903. tom I'd very much like to see a UDP based XMPP connection method though
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  927. Holger tom: You're saying web clients are a stupid thing?
  928. Holger Silly, sorry.
  929. tom Yes
  930. tom HTTP is really a sub-optimal network transport for XMPP
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  938. Holger Depending on environment, a technically sub-optimal solution might be the only available solution. And then there's users preferring this technically sub-optimal solutions as they perceive it as convenient.
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  940. Holger So I'm glad there's people silly enough to build this for XMPP.
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  1186. tom I'm just glad it's an option module
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  1228. tom what are the bestIRC transports?
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  1232. Holger Biboumi.
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  1234. tom What makes biboumi better than say, SPECTRUM2 or xmppy
  1235. tom I've used biboumi on other servers, namely snopyta
  1236. tom until they had to close it down to external users because some irc rbl list overreacted and banned their entire ip instead of just an ident
  1237. tom I've had some trouble adding irc users to my roster over biboumi, and servers with a round-robin DNS spamming my roster
  1238. tom getting feature not implemented when trying to add contacts
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  1240. tom biboumi is my only irc network transport experience, I was wondering what other options were out there
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  1244. Holger I haven't tested adding individual nicks to my roster, but as per the docs that should work (<https://doc.biboumi.louiz.org/user.html>).
  1245. Holger It's much newer than the Spectrum 2 stuff and offers a better feature mapping, various small additional features, and some significant ones such as MAM.
  1246. Holger > until they had to close it down to external users because some irc rbl list overreacted and banned their entire ip instead of just an ident That's always the issue with offering transports on public servers. With IRC, the server ops should obviously negotiate with the IRC ops they bridge to.
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  1249. tom why do you think that Holger? Isn't that the entire reason for the ident protocol existing? people on shared systems/mainframes/servers/network gateways not having 1 bad apple ruin things for everybody
  1250. Holger That's not how access restrictions on today's IRC networks typically work.
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  1252. tom How does nickserv work with biboumi?
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  1254. tom Does it work at all? I've never gotten it to
  1255. neox tom: I mange nickserv to work with SASL
  1256. neox tom: I manage nickserv to work with SASL
  1257. neox tom: I managed nickserv to work with SASL
  1258. neox Biboumi has ad-hoc commands that can setup SASL credentials and apply that at server connection
  1259. neox Alternatively, it is possible to send "ms nickserv register" commands, but with freenode for example, you have to send that within 30sec (and this is really short)
  1260. neox Alternatively, it is possible to send "ms nickserv identify" commands, but with freenode for example, you have to send that within 30sec (and this is really short)
  1261. neox (Sorry, I'm a bit tired, I do many mistakes lol)
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  1274. tom Do I have to generate and install some SASL keys onto the server, or is it able to use some XMPP native identity
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  1283. tom nickserv is kind of a poor hack on irc itself =(
  1284. tom it's understandable why there's not an ideal way to handle it
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  1293. neox tom: no SASL key, just credentials (username and password)
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