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jonas’
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does anyone know a deployment with a /.well-known/host-meta and/or a /.well-known/host-meta.json published? (see also: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0156.html)
jonas’
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I’m working on a thing which enumerates all connection methods of a service and I need test cases for that
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thanks, got both!
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tom
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No sorry jonas'
tom
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Btw that XEP seems really silly
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I totally understand wanting different connection methods than TCP+stream management
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tom
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But HTTP?
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tom
17:59:47
That just seems silly
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I'd very much like to see a UDP based XMPP connection method though
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Holger
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tom: You're saying web clients are a stupid thing?
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Silly, sorry.
tom
18:12:15
Yes
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18:12:32
HTTP is really a sub-optimal network transport for XMPP
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Holger
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Depending on environment, a technically sub-optimal solution might be the only available solution. And then there's users preferring this technically sub-optimal solutions as they perceive it as convenient.
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Holger
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So I'm glad there's people silly enough to build this for XMPP.
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tom
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I'm just glad it's an option module
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tom
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what are the bestIRC transports?
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Holger
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Biboumi.
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tom
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What makes biboumi better than say, SPECTRUM2 or xmppy
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I've used biboumi on other servers, namely snopyta
tom
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until they had to close it down to external users because some irc rbl list overreacted and banned their entire ip instead of just an ident
tom
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I've had some trouble adding irc users to my roster over biboumi, and servers with a round-robin DNS spamming my roster
tom
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getting feature not implemented when trying to add contacts
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biboumi is my only irc network transport experience, I was wondering what other options were out there
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I haven't tested adding individual nicks to my roster, but as per the docs that should work (<https://doc.biboumi.louiz.org/user.html>).
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It's much newer than the Spectrum 2 stuff and offers a better feature mapping, various small additional features, and some significant ones such as MAM.
Holger
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> until they had to close it down to external users because some irc rbl list overreacted and banned their entire ip instead of just an ident
That's always the issue with offering transports on public servers. With IRC, the server ops should obviously negotiate with the IRC ops they bridge to.
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why do you think that Holger? Isn't that the entire reason for the ident protocol existing? people on shared systems/mainframes/servers/network gateways not having 1 bad apple ruin things for everybody
Holger
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That's not how access restrictions on today's IRC networks typically work.
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How does nickserv work with biboumi?
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tom
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Does it work at all? I've never gotten it to
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tom: I mange nickserv to work with SASL ✎
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tom: I manage nickserv to work with SASL ✏
neox
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tom: I managed nickserv to work with SASL ✏
neox
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Biboumi has ad-hoc commands that can setup SASL credentials and apply that at server connection
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Alternatively, it is possible to send "ms nickserv register" commands, but with freenode for example, you have to send that within 30sec (and this is really short) ✎
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Alternatively, it is possible to send "ms nickserv identify" commands, but with freenode for example, you have to send that within 30sec (and this is really short) ✏
neox
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(Sorry, I'm a bit tired, I do many mistakes lol)
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Do I have to generate and install some SASL keys onto the server, or is it able to use some XMPP native identity
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nickserv is kind of a poor hack on irc itself =(
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it's understandable why there's not an ideal way to handle it
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tom: no SASL key, just credentials (username and password)
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