XMPP Service Operators - 2020-11-30


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  342. andrey.utkin what do you guys do these days with the annoying low-frequency (~2 per day) robo-stranger randomized greetings (always english or russian) from a variety of domains? manually blocking them is quite annoying.
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  345. mike Block them anyway and get annoyed that no client makes it really easy to deal with. Dino is close but needs work, Conversations makes it such a pain to deal with.
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  348. andrey.utkin oh, true, the number of clicks it takes to close just one leaves sth to be desired. And lack of bulk operations for this.
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  351. mike Every client needs a one-click/tap "this is spam" for first messages from new contacts, and a clear "undo" path for accidents.
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  357. andrey.utkin considering that my server is used by very few people and nobody i think really expects anybody sensible to start talking to them via XMPP out of the blue, i am wondering maybe i could afford to just restrict this sort of interaction very tightly on the server scope.
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  375. MattJ mike, Conversations has exactly the one-tap block, no?
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  378. andrey.utkin MattJ, no, Breadcrumbs -> Contact details -> Breadcrumbs -> Block contact -> press BLOCK to confirm to the dialog
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  385. pintosesk One could turn one of the 'close conversation' side swipes into 'block user'.
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  392. mike Dino's main flaw is that the block switch is in an easily accessed menu, but it doesn't then close the conversation and you have to do that manually. Block should immediately close.
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  395. mike Which hilariously Conversations DOES do but actually performing the block is convoluted.
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  426. MattJ https://matthewwild.co.uk/share.php/db57926c-dd6b-4e5c-baff-3d65fc7698d2/Screenshot_20201130-115632.png
  427. MattJ I get this popup when a stranger messages me ^
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  429. Licaon_Kter mike: > Which hilariously Conversations DOES do but actually performing the block is convoluted. Long press the allow button to block you mean?
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  431. mike What "allow" button? If there's a shortcut to do this I've never discovered it.
  432. Licaon_Kter mike: in the picture above...
  433. Licaon_Kter Nvm...
  434. mike https://chat.chinwag.im/upload/sI5mfJ3M_12IdETk/6wR3cb9eQKeTCiGcNxmFUw.jpg
  435. mike That's a real one I have right now. Only path to block it is as andrey.utkin said before.
  436. Licaon_Kter Right, long press add back to block....not intuitive
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  438. MattJ Ah, so that's shown instead when there is a subscription request
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  440. mike Wow holy crap that is NOT discoverable
  441. mike I had no clue that was possible
  442. mike I have never seen the "Block" version.
  443. andrey.utkin "long press Add Back to block" - i thought that was a joke.
  444. mike It kind of is a joke, for a spam message a button labelled "Add Back" is the last thing I'm going to attempt interacting with.
  445. MattJ Personally I rarely receive subscription spam, so I never saw the "Add Back" version
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  447. Licaon_Kter mike: > It kind of is a joke, for a spam message a button labelled "Add Back" is the last thing I'm going to attempt interacting with. It's spam now, is it spam when a friend contacts you? You get the same message...
  448. Licaon_Kter > Wow holy crap that is NOT discoverable > I had no clue that was possible Yes, long press actions are a pain...
  449. mike Do you have a filter of some kind for unsolicited subscriptions, because I never get spam without one.
  450. andrey.utkin Licaon_Kter, what's your point? When I see it's spam, i'm not going to press "Add back" and not going to discover the hidden blocking actions. When it's my friend, I'm going to press "Add back" and not going to discover the hidden blocking actions.
  451. Licaon_Kter No, then again I never get spam since I don't advertise my id
  452. Licaon_Kter You're going to close the chat if it's spam, or go to menu, details, menu, block, I guess
  453. Licaon_Kter Long press is faster
  454. andrey.utkin yes, but it's still a joke of an interface, and i still don't get the point of your response to mike's statement.
  455. Licaon_Kter The point was that there's a quick way to block, not sure what's lost in translation
  456. Licaon_Kter Feel free to PR a better button or whatever.
  457. mike Well, 11:30pm here, I'm taking this newfound knowledge of this well-hidden function to bed. Gnight folks.
  458. Licaon_Kter 👍
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