tomThe smartphone XMPP client market seems saturated while XMPP software for computer seems to be really lacking
tomI wonder about power users
Krishuh, plenty of good options. what do you mean?
tomThere''s dino and gajim, but those copy mac osx's interface style and are targeted to users who don't really understand computers
tomThere is a very good selection of CLI XMPP clients
KrisDino maybe, but that is rather GNOME style
tomHowever CLI leaves a lot to be desired, like avatars and images
tomI really like Vacuum-IM
tomBut it's lacking essential functionality like OMEMO
tomPsi+ still has the MaM support bounty open
tomBugs around http-upload
KrisGajim can be made to looks more or less like vacuum
Krisand works fine
tomIs that what your doing Kris?
tomI also tried pidgin again (the latest version)
KrisI use both Dino and Gajim
tomIt's still deathly lacking in XEPs
tomAnd it can't audio/video call anyone because it doesn't support encryption
tomCan you show me what your Gajim looks like?
tomI stopped using gajim after the 1.x release
tomThat's when they started removing features and told me gajim is not for power or experienced users
Krisyou should try it again. it improved a lot interface wise in the last few releases
tomAnd the reason is because they might confuse people who don't understand computers
Kriseh, you seem to have a rather specific set of requirements
tomI figured with that mentality it was unlikely to show any improvement in the future and with their move to gtk3, it would suffer the same fate as many other gnome programs
KrisI never had anything Gajim couldn't do, except for the rather new audio/video chat compativibilty with Conversations. but that will come soon I guess
tomWorking OMEMO implementation, working http-upload, Message Carbons/Archive Management, and vcard support
KrisAFAIK all supported in Gajim
Krisvcard I am not 100% sure
Krisand archive management is done a bit couter intuitively
tomI'll give gajim another try, but I'm seriously worried even it the new version is alright about it's future viability given the direction of GNOME3 projects and developers not eating their own dogfood
tomWhat i mean by that is themselves not being the target audience
tomWhat does that emoji mean?
tomA skelington and a female symbol?
Krismale version of the hands up and shrug emoji
tomWhile i'm compiling gajim, do you know of any other xmpp clients that support those modern XEPs and use any other graphical toolkit then QT?
tomOh ok, that's weird the shrug would show up as that
Krisso neither qt nor gtk?
tomQt is fine
tomGtk2 is fine
Krishmm there is some work in progress, but I don't think any of those would fulfill your needs
tomWhat did you have in mind?
Kristhere is Kaidan and Jabbercat
Krisand Cagou, but that isn't qt but something different all together
Link Mauvetom, poezio does support avatars fyi, if you have pillow or librsvg installed.
tomLink Mauve: how? Poezio is a ncurses command like tool?
Link MauveUsing Unicode half-block characters, and changing foreground/background colour. :3
tomLol really? Like aalib?
Link MauveYeah but better.
Link MauveDirectly inspired by mpv’s --vo=tct.
tomI'm not aware let me try that
Link MauveKris, Cagou is using Kivy as its graphical toolkit.
tomI had to doublecheck this wasn't a new xwindow
tomThat is really cool, and words /really/ well
Link MauveYou should add --really-quiet if you don’t want the weird lines around.
tomI kinda like them though, look like paint splotches
tomIs the linux framebuffer fast enough to use tct with?
Link MauveIf you mean fbcon, it’d look bad since that AFAIK can only do 16 colours.
Link MauveI’d recommend using a better terminal emulator, like kmscon.
tomAll really cool advice
tomThankyou Link Mauve
Link MauveYw. :)
tomAbout caugu though, i'm trying to get away from my computer looking like a smart phone