XMPP Service Operators - 2021-01-26


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  149. tom Does anybody know of or can recommend something for implementing IMAP full-text search without java?
  150. tom Most people just seem to use Apache Lucene, but I"d strongly prefer not to run java on my servers
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  180. ernst.on.tour Oh, didn't know that apache is a xmpp-server.
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  182. junaid ernst.on.tour, the Apache web server is a software project under the Apache Software Foundation. Apache Lucene is another such project under the foundation.
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  189. ernst.on.tour Ahh, and I thought this muc is for xmpp-service-offerer and tangenting problems.
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  230. christian tom: PHP is OK?
  231. tom No
  232. tom junaid: we are talking about something completely different
  233. tom Nothing to do with webservers
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  238. junaid tom: sorry. the "didnt know that apache is a xmpp-server" comment seemed like ernst.on.tour was unfamiliar with ASF. I mean most people just think apache web server when they hear apache.
  239. christian Do you want to search in emails?
  240. christian In a IMAP Server ?
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  243. tom Yeah, but more also for a general full text search engine
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  245. tom Something to hook into Dovecot
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  248. christian PHP can run in a Linux Server without a webserver. It is called CLI command line usage. http://php-cli.com/ and for this you can use https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.imap-search.php
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  250. christian This is the state of the art.
  251. tom christian: I don't think you realize
  252. tom This is a client
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  254. tom I'm talking about what implements the server-side of that
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  257. christian Dovecot is a client?
  258. tom Dovecot is a server daemon christian
  259. tom Which implements IMAP
  260. christian Okay and php CLI is server side
  261. tom It needs a search engine, like lucene or xapian
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  263. tom The thing you linked connects to an imap server
  264. tom Not implements some sever side functionality
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  267. christian > Does anybody know of or can recommend something for implementing IMAP full-text search without java? This was the question?
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  273. tom Yes
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  275. christian And you want to let user search mails in a IMAP server on full-text criteria?
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  284. Martin Hmm, profanity told me all xmpp.org sent invalid XML and I couldn't join those MUCs. From conv it worked. 🤔
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  434. edhelas true
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  437. Martin You also see invalid xml from xmpp.org MUCs?
  438. Martin After a restart profanity could join again.
  439. edhelas I have this theory that if we continue to block the dumb bots and scripts that are creating fake accounts on our servers, after a while they will have to make accounts that are more and more realistic until a point where we're not able anymore to differentiate from a real one.
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  442. Menel edhelas: https://m.xkcd.com/810/
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  451. Ge0rG edhelas: I agree with you, but what's the alternative strategy?
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  457. tom ^this
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  461. jonas’ edhelas, read into Sybil attacks
  462. jonas’ it’s all tricky
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  466. tom https://upload.esaanchez.net/716b9766f49b549c3916d680ca95e63cbc4e715d/MLDhdja7abyhepCVkqbAa7LGX9Rd1ZwbWL2gAdNB/Xg_3o5MPRdql5py6YwnhYg.jpg
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  472. jonas’ and the winner of the contest for the longest http upload URL iiiiiiiisss .... tom!
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  477. Martin Pfff, I have longer message IDs than that…
  478. tom Ooh
  479. tom It can be longer
  480. tom You can be sure of that
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  541. andrey.utkin Is anybody aware of any developments around Open Service Definition since 2007? https://blog.okfn.org/2007/07/18/we-need-an-open-service-definition/#comment-1581
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