XMPP Service Operators - 2021-01-26

Does anybody know of or can recommend something for implementing IMAP full-text search without java?

Most people just seem to use Apache Lucene, but I"d strongly prefer not to run java on my servers

Oh, didn't know that apache is a xmpp-server.

ernst.on.tour, the Apache web server is a software project under the Apache Software Foundation. Apache Lucene is another such project under the foundation.

Ahh, and I thought this muc is for xmpp-service-offerer and tangenting problems.

tom: PHP is OK?

No

junaid: we are talking about something completely different

Nothing to do with webservers

tom: sorry. the "didnt know that apache is a xmpp-server" comment seemed like ernst.on.tour was unfamiliar with ASF. I mean most people just think apache web server when they hear apache.

Do you want to search in emails?

In a IMAP Server ?

Yeah, but more also for a general full text search engine

Something to hook into Dovecot

PHP can run in a Linux Server without a webserver. It is called CLI command line usage. http://php-cli.com/ and for this you can use https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.imap-search.php

This is the state of the art.

christian: I don't think you realize

This is a client

I'm talking about what implements the server-side of that

Dovecot is a client?

Dovecot is a server daemon christian

Which implements IMAP

Okay and php CLI is server side

It needs a search engine, like lucene or xapian

The thing you linked connects to an imap server

Not implements some sever side functionality

> Does anybody know of or can recommend something for implementing IMAP full-text search without java? This was the question?

Yes

And you want to let user search mails in a IMAP server on full-text criteria?

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Hmm, profanity told me all xmpp.org sent invalid XML and I couldn't join those MUCs. From conv it worked. 🤔

true

You also see invalid xml from xmpp.org MUCs?

After a restart profanity could join again.

I have this theory that if we continue to block the dumb bots and scripts that are creating fake accounts on our servers, after a while they will have to make accounts that are more and more realistic until a point where we're not able anymore to differentiate from a real one.

edhelas: https://m.xkcd.com/810/

edhelas: I agree with you, but what's the alternative strategy?

^this

edhelas, read into Sybil attacks

it’s all tricky

https://upload.esaanchez.net/716b9766f49b549c3916d680ca95e63cbc4e715d/MLDhdja7abyhepCVkqbAa7LGX9Rd1ZwbWL2gAdNB/Xg_3o5MPRdql5py6YwnhYg.jpg

and the winner of the contest for the longest http upload URL iiiiiiiisss .... tom!

Pfff, I have longer message IDs than that…

Ooh

It can be longer

You can be sure of that

Is anybody aware of any developments around Open Service Definition since 2007? https://blog.okfn.org/2007/07/18/we-need-an-open-service-definition/#comment-1581