XMPP Service Operators - 2021-01-26


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  149. tom

    Does anybody know of or can recommend something for implementing IMAP full-text search without java?

  150. tom

    Most people just seem to use Apache Lucene, but I"d strongly prefer not to run java on my servers

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  180. ernst.on.tour

    Oh, didn't know that apache is a xmpp-server.

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  182. junaid

    ernst.on.tour, the Apache web server is a software project under the Apache Software Foundation. Apache Lucene is another such project under the foundation.

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  189. ernst.on.tour

    Ahh, and I thought this muc is for xmpp-service-offerer and tangenting problems.

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  230. christian

    tom: PHP is OK?

  231. tom

    No

  232. tom

    junaid: we are talking about something completely different

  233. tom

    Nothing to do with webservers

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  238. junaid

    tom: sorry. the "didnt know that apache is a xmpp-server" comment seemed like ernst.on.tour was unfamiliar with ASF. I mean most people just think apache web server when they hear apache.

  239. christian

    Do you want to search in emails?

  240. christian

    In a IMAP Server ?

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  243. tom

    Yeah, but more also for a general full text search engine

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  245. tom

    Something to hook into Dovecot

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  248. christian

    PHP can run in a Linux Server without a webserver. It is called CLI command line usage. http://php-cli.com/ and for this you can use https://www.php.net/manual/en/function.imap-search.php

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  250. christian

    This is the state of the art.

  251. tom

    christian: I don't think you realize

  252. tom

    This is a client

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  254. tom

    I'm talking about what implements the server-side of that

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  257. christian

    Dovecot is a client?

  258. tom

    Dovecot is a server daemon christian

  259. tom

    Which implements IMAP

  260. christian

    Okay and php CLI is server side

  261. tom

    It needs a search engine, like lucene or xapian

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  263. tom

    The thing you linked connects to an imap server

  264. tom

    Not implements some sever side functionality

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  267. christian

    > Does anybody know of or can recommend something for implementing IMAP full-text search without java? This was the question?

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  273. tom

    Yes

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  275. christian

    And you want to let user search mails in a IMAP server on full-text criteria?

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    Ping3

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    Oukeiii

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  284. Martin

    Hmm, profanity told me all xmpp.org sent invalid XML and I couldn't join those MUCs. From conv it worked. 🤔

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  434. edhelas

    true

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  437. Martin

    You also see invalid xml from xmpp.org MUCs?

  438. Martin

    After a restart profanity could join again.

  439. edhelas

    I have this theory that if we continue to block the dumb bots and scripts that are creating fake accounts on our servers, after a while they will have to make accounts that are more and more realistic until a point where we're not able anymore to differentiate from a real one.

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  442. Menel

    edhelas: https://m.xkcd.com/810/

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  451. Ge0rG

    edhelas: I agree with you, but what's the alternative strategy?

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  457. tom

    ^this

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  461. jonas’

    edhelas, read into Sybil attacks

  462. jonas’

    it’s all tricky

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  466. tom

    https://upload.esaanchez.net/716b9766f49b549c3916d680ca95e63cbc4e715d/MLDhdja7abyhepCVkqbAa7LGX9Rd1ZwbWL2gAdNB/Xg_3o5MPRdql5py6YwnhYg.jpg

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  472. jonas’

    and the winner of the contest for the longest http upload URL iiiiiiiisss .... tom!

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  477. Martin

    Pfff, I have longer message IDs than that…

  478. tom

    Ooh

  479. tom

    It can be longer

  480. tom

    You can be sure of that

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  541. andrey.utkin

    Is anybody aware of any developments around Open Service Definition since 2007? https://blog.okfn.org/2007/07/18/we-need-an-open-service-definition/#comment-1581

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