XMPP Service Operators - 2021-01-28


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  9. mjk Yeah, I think with no s2s you're good. That is, if you're okay with your family manually specifying connection port in account settings :)
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  15. mwk Ya
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  18. mwk > Here's one good guide https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-move-the-office-to-real-time-im-on-ejabberd/ This server have a voice call and voice messages ?
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  196. Licaon_Kter mwk: read all 3 https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-move-the-office-to-real-time-im-on-ejabberd/ & https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/ & https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-configure-ejabberd-to-get-100-in-xmpp-compliance-test/ 👍
  197. Licaon_Kter mjk: you can't add SRVs to IPs, you'd need an actual domain Also, not sure dynamic domains can handle SRVs, but might be a provider thing.
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  201. ernst.on.tour Whats the difference between "normal" and "dynamic" dns ? 😉 My dns-provider offer a dynamic-dns-api to bypass dns-config-webpage
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  203. ernst.on.tour SRV is static and only A or AAAA will dynamicly change
  204. Licaon_Kter ernst.on.tour: difference being static IP or not I guess
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  206. Licaon_Kter By dynamic I means `mydomain.dyndns.com` stuff
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  209. ernst.on.tour The dns should be the same, dynamic means you have to change your ip entry more than once a decade 😉 Dyndns.com offer a client to bypass web-config-page, some router/fritzbox offer a buildin-client, my dns-provider offers a dyndns-compatible api. Therefor my homebased-daily-changed-ip will be updated just the same as by dyndns
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  213. ernst.on.tour SRV were prepared once via webpage and A/AAAA is held upto-date via little python-script and their api
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  242. jonas’ that’d work, just be aware that you might lose messages sent while you’re changing IPs
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  244. Arne you can also rent a static ip over vpn ernst.on.tour
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  246. ernst.on.tour jonas’: The python-script is running each two minutes to test external ip and update it if needed. "Downtime" could be worsetime 2:15. I think its okay for an "internal/small" server. Also main ip-switch-time is at night between 03:00-04:00 😉
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  342. mwk > The dns should be the same, dynamic means you have to change your ip entry more than once a decade 😉 > Dyndns.com offer a client to bypass web-config-page, some router/fritzbox offer a buildin-client, my dns-provider offers a dyndns-compatible api. > Therefor my homebased-daily-changed-ip will be updated just the same as by dyndns No-ip.net the same ?
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  388. jonas’ heads up: *.jabber.network services may get disrupted briefly while the domain transfer is ongoing
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  396. chunk jonas’, congrats mang
  397. chunk i have an idea too btw
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  401. chunk I wondered if I could design a page that utilizes meta data from the info that search.jabber.network would spit out. Basically like... Redesign that page and allow it to show the data on the items in a very nice way.. But how would I get that data? Is it available anywhere with api?
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  407. Martin Of course. That's how conversations uses it.
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  409. chunk I thought so, that's awesome. Anybody know how?
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  415. Martin https://search.jabber.network/docs/api
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  417. mjk > This server have a voice call and voice messages ? Voice messages are files, and any xmpp servers supports that. Voice (and video) calls are handled by a TURN server, and ejabberd embeds one. See Licaon's links
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  419. mjk mwk: > This server have a voice call and voice messages ? Voice messages are files, and any xmpp servers supports that. Voice (and video) calls are handled by a TURN server, and ejabberd embeds one. See Licaon's links
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  427. jonas’ chunk, you know, you can also propose patches against s.j.n ;)
  428. mjk > Also, not sure dynamic domains can handle SRVs, but might be a provider thing. Yeah, not every freemium ddns provider allows full spectrum of record types without payment. No-ip, iirc, only allows A.
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  433. chunk jonas’, what does "propse patches" mean?
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  436. chunk I wanted to include in my future "user friendly, get everybody to the chat server" idea that list with my own design. If I can curl from somewhere even just the JIDs I'd be good to figure out the meta data somehow
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  439. chunk Suppose it's a rather exclusive type of thing tho
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  445. jonas’ ok, maybe I don’t understand what you’re trying
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  454. chunk what im saying is i don't understand what you mean by propose a patch on your site
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  462. jonas’ chunk, if you have concrete proposals how to improve the UX s.j.n, I’m all ears
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  472. chunk Ok. No I don't want to take over your list by any means, no sir. Aha now I see where you're coming from. My apoligies I think I originally meant to start this convo off just saying it was an idea I had, nothing serious, and to look into it. I just am looking for a new idea for my lust of designing stuff around meta data. Forget I asked :)
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  475. chunk I'm also curious how I can use PHP and curl to find that meta data. Or basic information about what comes up in discover services in gajim.. And recursively search server > MUC > rooms
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  478. jonas’ you can’t do that with curl, needs to be done with XMPP
  479. jonas’ (what gajim does)
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  483. jonas’ chunk, https://search.jabber.network/docs/api#http check that to interface with s.j.n over HTTP
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  485. chunk thank you sir, much appreciated
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  797. mwk Is there alternative XMPP for chat ? I have IRC Server done , but im give up in xmpp . , Any alternative ?
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  799. MattJ The best alternative to XMPP is Snikket ;)
  800. mwk Sinkket have same functions of xmpp ?
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  807. Licaon_Kter mwk: given up because?
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  809. mwk I follow many resources in internet to build my xmpp server , not success
  810. mwk Is there some one have success in pi ?
  811. mwk Or have ready to use iso
  812. Licaon_Kter mwk: me, others, works fine
  813. mwk What server you have ?
  814. Licaon_Kter But you need to know how to Linux more than how to xmpp
  815. mwk What os u have ?
  816. Licaon_Kter mwk: the one I gave you info about, the 3 links above
  817. mwk Rasbian or ubuntu or windows
  818. Licaon_Kter Did you see them?
  819. mwk Yes
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  821. mwk I see the
  822. Licaon_Kter Debian arm64 here
  823. Licaon_Kter What did you have and which server did you try?
  824. mwk Im looking for running on pi
  825. mwk Not on windows pc
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  827. mwk Why no github ready to use tool ?
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  829. mwk Is there ?
  830. mwk Fo pi
  831. Licaon_Kter You want image to burn and be done?
  832. mwk Yes
  833. mwk Thats what im look for
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  835. Licaon_Kter Well, no one felt the need I guess.
  836. mwk Is there some one success install tool in pi ?
  837. mwk Xmpp server
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  840. Licaon_Kter aenigma is still developed on Github?
  841. Licaon_Kter mwk: which Pi? Which OS?
  842. jonas’ mwk, did you see https://snikket.org/service/ ?
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  845. Licaon_Kter jonas’: lets confuse them with docker?
  846. jonas’ it *is* easy to install
  847. mwk Debian pi 3b+
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  852. Licaon_Kter jonas’: > it *is* easy to install Docker should be usable, true
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  854. mwk Licaon_Kter: thanks , i wil look now gr snikket
  855. mwk jonas’: thanks i wiil.look now for snikket
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  857. jonas’ mwk, raspberry pi support will be available starting monday though
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  859. jonas’ It is already in dev, but dev is unstable -> wait for release on monday
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  861. mwk On Monday next week (
  862. mwk ?
  863. jonas’ yes
  864. mwk Fromwere i got news when release?
  865. jonas’ twitter or blog, linked at the bottom of https://snikket.org
  866. mwk In nit see any thing in website
  867. jonas’ https://twitter.com/snikket_im or https://snikket.org/blog/
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  870. mwk Thanks
  871. mwk Were news about raspberry pi
  872. mwk ?
  873. jonas’ will be in the release announcement
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  1333. Arne Hey, can anyonr recommend a very lightweight xmpp client for administrating MUCs? :)
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  1336. Arne Gajim is fine for sure, but I still didn't try any terminal client
  1337. Link Mauve As a poezio maintainer… Hi! poezio exists!
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  1339. Link Mauve It’s not super light due to Python, but so is Gajim so…
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  1345. Arne Thanks Link Mauve . I take a look on it
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  1506. mwk im looking to setup snikket server in ubuntu laptop and make it server , i register my email in snikket.org , i follow the instructions up to step 4 in website instructions , i make via nano docker-compose.yml and snikket.conf I put my home fix ddns adress and put my email too , Now when i try docker-compose up -d I got output : /usr/local/bin/docker-compose: line 1: Not: command not found . I check the file in /usr/local/bin/docker-compose and open it , i see nothing inside ! Just i see this text : not found What should i do ? When i open new terminal and try type : docker I see i have docker installed on my system ! Any advice ??
  1507. mwk When i try : docker-compose , i got same error up
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  1510. mwk /user/local/bin/docker-compose: line1: Not: command not found
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  1513. mwk My laptop. Ubuntu x86 bit
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  1516. mwk How to fix this error in docker-compose
  1517. mwk ,,,,😔
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  1523. Link Mauve mwk, why don’t you install it from your distribution packages, instead of downloading a file manually?
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  1525. Link Mauve Try rm /usr/local/bin/docker-compose && apt install docker-compose
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  1528. mwk I just follow the snikket website steps
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  1531. Link Mauve Try that maybe?
  1532. mwk I will now
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  1545. MattJ I'm very curious what the output of this command would say: head /usr/local/bin/docker-compose
  1546. MattJ Seems you downloaded something else there
  1547. mwk When i try rm it say no such file in directory
  1548. MattJ Link Mauve, docker/docker-compose in distributions is often problematic in my experience :/
  1549. mwk But when i try sudo apt install docker-compose , i got it is allredy in newest version
  1550. MattJ The guide requires new versions, and not everybody is on Arch :)
  1551. MattJ mwk, run: head /usr/local/bin/docker-compose
  1552. MattJ and tell me what it says
  1553. Link Mauve MattJ, oh, I saw your mention of “If you have the docker and docker-compose commands already available on your system, great!” and went with it, sorry.
  1554. MattJ Ah, fair enough
  1555. MattJ I should figure out exactly what distros ship the right versions already
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  1557. mwk > mwk, run: head /usr/local/bin/docker-compose > and tell me what it says I got canot open usr local bin .. docker ... For reading , no such file or directory
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  1560. MattJ And: which docker-compose
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  1562. mwk > MattJ, oh, I saw your mention of “If you have the docker and docker-compose commands already available on your system, great!” and went with it, sorry. When i type in terminal docker and hit enter , i see all commands available for docker and toolls , so docker is work ,
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  1564. mwk When try install docker compose tell me im in newest version 1.8.0-2_16.04.1
  1565. MattJ Ok, then try the command again?
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  1567. mwk > Ok, then try the command again? Command to delete
  1568. mwk ?
  1569. mwk Rm
  1570. MattJ No, the docker-compose command from the guide
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  1573. mwk I forget to tell you
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  1575. mwk I do this
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  1578. mwk Sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/docker-cimpose /usr/bin/docker-compose
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  1580. mwk So try to rm in usr/bin
  1581. mwk Not usr/local/bin
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  1584. MattJ Sorry, not really sure what you're doing
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  1587. MattJ Step 1: get docker-compose working
  1588. MattJ Step 2: follow the rest of the guide :)
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  1591. mwk I delete from usr/bin , but when try to install sudo apt install docket compose , i got same docker-compose is allready in newest version
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  1593. MattJ Then you have docker-compose, so just follow the guide
  1594. MattJ My laptop battery is nearly flat and I need to sleep... good luck :)
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  1597. mwk I follow the guide but get error up command not found !
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  1599. mwk Ok
  1600. mwk Thanks
  1601. mwk Tomorrow we talk
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  1623. mwk ok
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