XMPP Service Operators - 2021-01-28

Yeah, I think with no s2s you're good. That is, if you're okay with your family manually specifying connection port in account settings :)

Ya

> Here's one good guide https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-move-the-office-to-real-time-im-on-ejabberd/ This server have a voice call and voice messages ?

mwk: read all 3 https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-move-the-office-to-real-time-im-on-ejabberd/ & https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-set-up-ejabberd-video-voice-calling/ & https://www.process-one.net/blog/how-to-configure-ejabberd-to-get-100-in-xmpp-compliance-test/ 👍

mjk: you can't add SRVs to IPs, you'd need an actual domain Also, not sure dynamic domains can handle SRVs, but might be a provider thing.

Whats the difference between "normal" and "dynamic" dns ? 😉 My dns-provider offer a dynamic-dns-api to bypass dns-config-webpage

SRV is static and only A or AAAA will dynamicly change

ernst.on.tour: difference being static IP or not I guess

By dynamic I means `mydomain.dyndns.com` stuff

The dns should be the same, dynamic means you have to change your ip entry more than once a decade 😉 Dyndns.com offer a client to bypass web-config-page, some router/fritzbox offer a buildin-client, my dns-provider offers a dyndns-compatible api. Therefor my homebased-daily-changed-ip will be updated just the same as by dyndns

SRV were prepared once via webpage and A/AAAA is held upto-date via little python-script and their api

that’d work, just be aware that you might lose messages sent while you’re changing IPs

you can also rent a static ip over vpn ernst.on.tour

jonas’: The python-script is running each two minutes to test external ip and update it if needed. "Downtime" could be worsetime 2:15. I think its okay for an "internal/small" server. Also main ip-switch-time is at night between 03:00-04:00 😉

> The dns should be the same, dynamic means you have to change your ip entry more than once a decade 😉 > Dyndns.com offer a client to bypass web-config-page, some router/fritzbox offer a buildin-client, my dns-provider offers a dyndns-compatible api. > Therefor my homebased-daily-changed-ip will be updated just the same as by dyndns No-ip.net the same ?

heads up: *.jabber.network services may get disrupted briefly while the domain transfer is ongoing

gl ✏

jonas’, congrats mang

i have an idea too btw

I wondered if I could design a page that utilizes meta data from the info that search.jabber.network would spit out. Basically like... Redesign that page and allow it to show the data on the items in a very nice way.. But how would I get that data? Is it available anywhere with api?

Of course. That's how conversations uses it.

I thought so, that's awesome. Anybody know how?

https://search.jabber.network/docs/api

mwk: > This server have a voice call and voice messages ? Voice messages are files, and any xmpp servers supports that. Voice (and video) calls are handled by a TURN server, and ejabberd embeds one. See Licaon's links ✏

chunk, you know, you can also propose patches against s.j.n ;)

> Also, not sure dynamic domains can handle SRVs, but might be a provider thing. Yeah, not every freemium ddns provider allows full spectrum of record types without payment. No-ip, iirc, only allows A.

jonas’, what does "propse patches" mean?

I wanted to include in my future "user friendly, get everybody to the chat server" idea that list with my own design. If I can curl from somewhere even just the JIDs I'd be good to figure out the meta data somehow

Suppose it's a rather exclusive type of thing tho

ok, maybe I don’t understand what you’re trying

what im saying is i don't understand what you mean by propose a patch on your site

chunk, if you have concrete proposals how to improve the UX s.j.n, I’m all ears

Ok. No I don't want to take over your list by any means, no sir. Aha now I see where you're coming from. My apoligies I think I originally meant to start this convo off just saying it was an idea I had, nothing serious, and to look into it. I just am looking for a new idea for my lust of designing stuff around meta data. Forget I asked :)

I'm also curious how I can use PHP and curl to find that meta data. Or basic information about what comes up in discover services in gajim.. And recursively search server > MUC > rooms

you can’t do that with curl, needs to be done with XMPP

(what gajim does)

chunk, https://search.jabber.network/docs/api#http check that to interface with s.j.n over HTTP

thank you sir, much appreciated

Is there alternative XMPP for chat ? I have IRC Server done , but im give up in xmpp . , Any alternative ?

The best alternative to XMPP is Snikket ;)

Sinkket have same functions of xmpp ?

mwk: given up because?

I follow many resources in internet to build my xmpp server , not success

Is there some one have success in pi ?

Or have ready to use iso

mwk: me, others, works fine

What server you have ?

But you need to know how to Linux more than how to xmpp

What os u have ?

mwk: the one I gave you info about, the 3 links above

Rasbian or ubuntu or windows

Did you see them?

Yes

I see the

Debian arm64 here

What did you have and which server did you try?

Im looking for running on pi

Not on windows pc

Why no github ready to use tool ?

Is there ?

Fo pi

You want image to burn and be done?

Yes

Thats what im look for

Well, no one felt the need I guess.

Is there some one success install tool in pi ?

Xmpp server

aenigma is still developed on Github?

mwk: which Pi? Which OS?

mwk, did you see https://snikket.org/service/ ?

jonas’: lets confuse them with docker?

it *is* easy to install

Debian pi 3b+

jonas’: > it *is* easy to install Docker should be usable, true

Licaon_Kter: thanks , i wil look now gr snikket

jonas’: thanks i wiil.look now for snikket

mwk, raspberry pi support will be available starting monday though

It is already in dev, but dev is unstable -> wait for release on monday

On Monday next week (

?

yes

Fromwere i got news when release?

twitter or blog, linked at the bottom of https://snikket.org

In nit see any thing in website

https://twitter.com/snikket_im or https://snikket.org/blog/

Thanks

Were news about raspberry pi

?

will be in the release announcement

Hey, can anyonr recommend a very lightweight xmpp client for administrating MUCs? :)

Gajim is fine for sure, but I still didn't try any terminal client

As a poezio maintainer… Hi! poezio exists!

It’s not super light due to Python, but so is Gajim so…

Thanks Link Mauve . I take a look on it

im looking to setup snikket server in ubuntu laptop and make it server , i register my email in snikket.org , i follow the instructions up to step 4 in website instructions , i make via nano docker-compose.yml and snikket.conf I put my home fix ddns adress and put my email too , Now when i try docker-compose up -d I got output : /usr/local/bin/docker-compose: line 1: Not: command not found . I check the file in /usr/local/bin/docker-compose and open it , i see nothing inside ! Just i see this text : not found What should i do ? When i open new terminal and try type : docker I see i have docker installed on my system ! Any advice ??

When i try : docker-compose , i got same error up

/user/local/bin/docker-compose: line1: Not: command not found

My laptop. Ubuntu x86 bit

How to fix this error in docker-compose

,,,,😔

mwk, why don’t you install it from your distribution packages, instead of downloading a file manually?

Try rm /usr/local/bin/docker-compose && apt install docker-compose

I just follow the snikket website steps

Try that maybe?

I will now

I'm very curious what the output of this command would say: head /usr/local/bin/docker-compose

Seems you downloaded something else there

When i try rm it say no such file in directory

Link Mauve, docker/docker-compose in distributions is often problematic in my experience :/

But when i try sudo apt install docker-compose , i got it is allredy in newest version

The guide requires new versions, and not everybody is on Arch :)

mwk, run: head /usr/local/bin/docker-compose

and tell me what it says

MattJ, oh, I saw your mention of “If you have the docker and docker-compose commands already available on your system, great!” and went with it, sorry.

Ah, fair enough

I should figure out exactly what distros ship the right versions already

> mwk, run: head /usr/local/bin/docker-compose > and tell me what it says I got canot open usr local bin .. docker ... For reading , no such file or directory

And: which docker-compose

> MattJ, oh, I saw your mention of “If you have the docker and docker-compose commands already available on your system, great!” and went with it, sorry. When i type in terminal docker and hit enter , i see all commands available for docker and toolls , so docker is work ,

When try install docker compose tell me im in newest version 1.8.0-2_16.04.1

Ok, then try the command again?

> Ok, then try the command again? Command to delete

?

Rm

No, the docker-compose command from the guide

I forget to tell you

I do this

Sudo ln -s /usr/local/bin/docker-cimpose /usr/bin/docker-compose

So try to rm in usr/bin

Not usr/local/bin

Sorry, not really sure what you're doing

Step 1: get docker-compose working

Step 2: follow the rest of the guide :)

I delete from usr/bin , but when try to install sudo apt install docket compose , i got same docker-compose is allready in newest version

Then you have docker-compose, so just follow the guide

My laptop battery is nearly flat and I need to sleep... good luck :)

I follow the guide but get error up command not found !

Ok

Thanks

Tomorrow we talk

Bye

ok