tom: as mentioned in the mail yesterday you are the first reporting this issue. logs are now active to get some more information why exactly that happens. will let you know
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tom
Thanks perf
tom
I saw your message
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Andrew Hansen
Hi guys, I'm new to this. I've just setup my own ejabberd xmpp server, everything is running great, will see how it all goes.
Ge0rG
do you have in-band-registration enabled? If yes, spammers will appreciate that ;)
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Andrew Hansen: Welcome!
christian
Ge0rG: i habe it enabled. And i am controlling the situation well ;-)
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e2e.ee
Why do spammers use in-band registration? Why do spammers create lots and lots of accounts? What advantage does that give them?
e2e.ee
I am not a spammer... so I need to ask. 🤣
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e2e.ee: you need an account to send messages, not sure what's the confusing part
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pintosesk
I guess if you look at it from a statistical point of view, it increases the yield of the operation.
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Whether or not it's diminishing returns depends on how effective each bot is at its task.
e2e.ee
But, the spammers can create accounts from the website, so why prefer in-band reg?
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jonas’
e2e.ee, you need to write a new parser for each new website
jonas’
in-band is standardized
jonas’
you only need to write a single thing which can do that
e2e.ee
How many accounts do they typically create in-band?
jonas’
50 lines in aioxmpp, done
jonas’
a lot.
mathieui
a lot.
jonas’
but sometimes also not a lot
jonas’
I hear
jonas’
but tehn again, a lot, but not at the same time
e2e.ee
"a lot" 😂 sounds funny. tens? hundreds? thousands? more?
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mathieui
if left unsupervised without throttling, yes, they will easily create thousands
e2e.ee
Wow. That sucks.
e2e.ee
Have a wonderful day everyone!
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e2e.ee: You too!
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Ge0rG
Yeah, speaking from experience, you get multiple hundreds to ~1000 accounts per batch, using a wordlist alphabetically, spreading the registration over Tor / open proxies to circumvent per-IP limits
Ge0rG
later they'll login, one after another, all from the same IP, and send a dozen spam messages to different JIDs each
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e2e.ee
Ge0rG: That is interesting.
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e2e.ee
Ge0rG: what happened to your yax vCard image? I don't see it today.
that yak is from 1989, it's immune to global pandemics from the 2020s.
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jonas’
but is it a sterelising immunity?
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Establishing a secure connection from lebihan.pl to national-security.agency failed. Certificate hash: 20ca7c29f7942173de8718a092cf0593f5ab445fe082a02a35801fd2770f6ac8. Error with certificate 0: certificate has expired.
mimi89999
Whoever that it
mimi89999
.
mimi89999
Ping
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mimi89999: pong
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Establishing a secure connection from lebihan.pl to national-security.agency failed. Certificate hash: 20ca7c29f7942173de8718a092cf0593f5ab445fe082a02a35801fd2770f6ac8. Error with certificate 0: certificate has expired.
neox
national-security.agency 🤔️
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Martin
On http they forward to https://www.nsa.gov/ 😁
mjk
Lol
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Martin
Also ironic that mimi89999 can't establish a secure connection to the security agency.