XMPP Service Operators - 2021-02-10


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  607. chunk Hey does anybody know of a good video/tutorial about xmpp's pubsub? perhaps in a detailed explanation, for a dev?
  608. jonas’ for a dev? xep-0060
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  617. chunk i'll figure it out, thanks.
  618. chunk i meant in a 'digestible' format, I didn't feel like reading hard lol
  619. MattJ Some entities subscribe to pubsub nodes, some entities publish data to those nodes, and the subscribers receive the data
  620. MattJ Hope that wasn't too hard reading :)
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  622. chunk okay that's nice and simple. can i make a micro blog out of it using laravel frameworkk or something? does it publish to http?
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  624. chunk *using http.... suppose it doesn;t actually
  625. chunk seems i would want to start small with it...
  626. MattJ https://movim.eu/ is based largely on pubsub, for example
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  628. MattJ So yes, you can make a microblog out of it
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  630. MattJ HTTP is of no concern to XMPP, but Prosody has various interfaces to pubsub nodes (including some HTTP)
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  633. chunk okay so then the nodes are the core of it. i should figure out the 'node'
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  635. chunk hmmm webhooks...
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  638. MattJ https://modules.prosody.im/type_pubsub - enjoy
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  642. MattJ mod_pubsub_text_interface is the best way to play from a normal IM client, mod_pubsub_hub is probably the best way to subscribe over HTTP, mod_pubsub_eventsource is probably the best way to subscribe from JS (if you don't have an XMPP lib)
  643. chunk MattJ, thank you very much
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  885. jayteeuk FWIW, XMPP PubSub as the basis for a microblog is a project I'm very interested in, if only I could find the time to develop the idea. With transports for other protocols, I think everything's there for a truly distributed social network.
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  894. thndrbvr Jayteeuk, are you familiar with https://GNUsocial.network ?
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  896. jayteeuk Is that the identi.ca/status.net based one?
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  898. thndrbvr Yes. Diogo is the new project lead and they're actively working on a few finishing touches for v2 to smooth out some ActivityPub weirdness, and v3 is already in beta. Check out the notabug repo for planned features.
  899. thndrbvr gnusocial@conference.bka.li
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  905. thndrbvr But yeah, GNU Social is all about web standards, accessibility, JS being optional, and can use XMPP for some things. We're trying to figure out how to best handle things like integration with groups and MUCs, if/how PMs should be done i.e. via XMPP. I don't know, I'm not a dev, just an idea guy ;)
  906. jayteeuk Interesting. I'll have a read when I get chance (currently cooking dinner, so not able to dig, which is kind of an illustration of my original point).
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  908. thndrbvr chunk: also see ^ Maybe you could contribute? V3 is using Symphony
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  913. thndrbvr Another thing: I hear https://metronome.im is focused on supporting microblogging features and forked from Prosody.
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  919. Licaon_Kter thndrbvr: Maranda won't like the "forked" comment :)) that's like 12 years old already
  920. thndrbvr Lol woops. Well, the site mentions it and the documentation I've read seems to apply still. I didn't realize it was so long ago.
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  944. petermolnar > I didn't realize it was so long ago. Same here. Time flies.
  945. Martin > thndrbvr: Maranda won't like the "forked" comment :)) that's like 12 years old already It's forked off from prosody. What's wrong withvthat?
  946. Martin > thndrbvr: Maranda won't like the "forked" comment :)) that's like 12 years old already It's forked off from prosody. What's wrong with that?
  947. Licaon_Kter Martin: nothing wrong, but wrong to still call it _"just a fork of prosody"_ like it was forked last month. After all this time it's just another server.
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  970. jayteeuk > Yes. Diogo is the new project lead and they're actively working on a few finishing touches for v2 to smooth out some ActivityPub weirdness, and v3 is already in beta. Check out the notabug repo for planned features. An absolute age ago I was following development of OneSocialWeb, and was involved with Buddycloud for a while. And was also on identi.ca from very early on in its development. I started fleshing out the idea of XMPP PubSub as a social network during a period of unemployment a few years ago. Then became employed! 😆
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  974. MattJ jayteeuk, I'd be surprised if we didn't cross paths then, same nick/handle as now? :)
  975. MattJ Those were the days
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  977. jayteeuk > jayteeuk, I'd be surprised if we didn't cross paths then, same nick/handle as now? :) > Those were the days Probably, or james.tait, or some variation thereof. 😊
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  992. chunk I will have to revisit the pubsub study tomorrow, im far too tired to soak up the awesome of what you guys are talkin about o7
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  1001. mathieui jayteeuk: did you check what movim or sàt have been doing with xmpp microblogging?
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