Kris: last time I tried it, it worked, but I never got around to implementing authentication, or a plugin on the muc side enforcing the same nick across all rooms on the same server
Kris
ah, the original author 😉
moparisthebest
I vaguely plan on rewriting it in rust someday
Kris
hmm, how about a component interface with Oragono?
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there was also PSYC, but I have no idea what the status is of that project these days. I think last I read they were going to be some new part of GNUnet, but the older software was kinda cool in accepting connections from a variety of client types
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mimi89999
Establishing a secure connection from otr.chat to lebihan.pl failed. Certificate hash: 4395c62e3313bc33482c0072eba7cf5182ce24768074d43ec9fcbb1cdeb9db4f. Error with certificate 0: self signed certificate.
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Christopher M0YNG
I'm really enjoying the international away messages :)
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tom
Oh? Like what christ
tom
Christopher M0YNG:
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mjk
Probably all the different presence changes in the log :)
I'm not seeing it (Conversations here), but can imagine
mjk
Would be nice to be able to internationalize the messages
Licaon_Kter
`xml:lang`
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Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra supports that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted✎
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Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra support that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted ✏
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MattJ
We're trying to move away from that kind of thing
MattJ
Some clients do support stuff like that
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MattJ
But I think in a future protocol update we'd probably restrict things to just a single item with a language tag
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MattJ: Hmm. Why though? Too much complexity?
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MattJ
Various issues. The most interesting one are potential security issues
MattJ
If you send a message to this chat in multiple languages, some clients will show one message and some will show a different one
mjk
Ah, right
MattJ
That could trick humans (e.g. if I know the admin uses language A, and someone I want to insult uses language B, I can ensure they see different versions of the message)
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MattJ
It can also trick software that doesn't follow the rules identically to all other software
Holger
Sounds fun! And now Matt wants to break it.
tom
Humans are overrated anyways
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MattJ
Roll on robot uprising
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mjk
Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :)
But another possible issue is sniffing out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering✎
mjk
Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :)
But another possible issue is the ability to sniff out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering ✏
MattJ
Well I'm half trying to deprecate status messages too, so... :)
mjk
Although can be easilly mitigated it privacy-consious clients by always displaying, e.g., english
mjk
Lol
mjk
Noo, have mercy
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Christopher M0YNG
yes, things like:
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> Jonny is xa, " (Nicht verfügbar wegen Untätigkeit seit mehr als 15 Minuten)"
Christopher M0YNG
> wladmis is away, " (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)"
Christopher M0YNG
etc
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wladmis
nice antifeature
tom
Not here or lost signal, but I'll see your messages when I return! =^.^= (since 5:12 am EST on 2021-02-23)