XMPP Service Operators - 2021-02-23


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  145. moparisthebest

    Kris: last time I tried it, it worked, but I never got around to implementing authentication, or a plugin on the muc side enforcing the same nick across all rooms on the same server

  146. Kris

    ah, the original author 😉

  147. moparisthebest

    I vaguely plan on rewriting it in rust someday

  148. Kris

    hmm, how about a component interface with Oragono?

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  157. allie

    there was also PSYC, but I have no idea what the status is of that project these days. I think last I read they were going to be some new part of GNUnet, but the older software was kinda cool in accepting connections from a variety of client types

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  531. mimi89999

    Establishing a secure connection from otr.chat to lebihan.pl failed. Certificate hash: 4395c62e3313bc33482c0072eba7cf5182ce24768074d43ec9fcbb1cdeb9db4f. Error with certificate 0: self signed certificate.

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  538. Christopher M0YNG

    I'm really enjoying the international away messages :)

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  560. tom

    Oh? Like what christ

  561. tom

    Christopher M0YNG:

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  593. mjk

    Probably all the different presence changes in the log :) I'm not seeing it (Conversations here), but can imagine

  594. mjk

    Would be nice to be able to internationalize the messages

  595. Licaon_Kter

    `xml:lang`

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  597. mjk

    Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra supports that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted

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  599. mjk

    Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra support that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted

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  601. MattJ

    We're trying to move away from that kind of thing

  602. MattJ

    Some clients do support stuff like that

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  605. MattJ

    But I think in a future protocol update we'd probably restrict things to just a single item with a language tag

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  608. mjk

    MattJ: Hmm. Why though? Too much complexity?

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  611. MattJ

    Various issues. The most interesting one are potential security issues

  612. MattJ

    If you send a message to this chat in multiple languages, some clients will show one message and some will show a different one

  613. mjk

    Ah, right

  614. MattJ

    That could trick humans (e.g. if I know the admin uses language A, and someone I want to insult uses language B, I can ensure they see different versions of the message)

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  616. MattJ

    It can also trick software that doesn't follow the rules identically to all other software

  617. Holger

    Sounds fun! And now Matt wants to break it.

  618. tom

    Humans are overrated anyways

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  620. MattJ

    Roll on robot uprising

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  624. mjk

    Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :) But another possible issue is sniffing out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering

  625. mjk

    Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :) But another possible issue is the ability to sniff out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering

  626. MattJ

    Well I'm half trying to deprecate status messages too, so... :)

  627. mjk

    Although can be easilly mitigated it privacy-consious clients by always displaying, e.g., english

  628. mjk

    Lol

  629. mjk

    Noo, have mercy

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  654. Christopher M0YNG

    yes, things like:

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  656. Christopher M0YNG

    > Jonny is xa, " (Nicht verfügbar wegen Untätigkeit seit mehr als 15 Minuten)"

  657. Christopher M0YNG

    > wladmis is away, " (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)"

  658. Christopher M0YNG

    etc

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  666. wladmis

    nice antifeature

  667. tom

    Not here or lost signal, but I'll see your messages when I return! =^.^= (since 5:12 am EST on 2021-02-23)

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