XMPP Service Operators - 2021-02-23


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  145. moparisthebest Kris: last time I tried it, it worked, but I never got around to implementing authentication, or a plugin on the muc side enforcing the same nick across all rooms on the same server
  146. Kris ah, the original author 😉
  147. moparisthebest I vaguely plan on rewriting it in rust someday
  148. Kris hmm, how about a component interface with Oragono?
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  157. allie there was also PSYC, but I have no idea what the status is of that project these days. I think last I read they were going to be some new part of GNUnet, but the older software was kinda cool in accepting connections from a variety of client types
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  531. mimi89999 Establishing a secure connection from otr.chat to lebihan.pl failed. Certificate hash: 4395c62e3313bc33482c0072eba7cf5182ce24768074d43ec9fcbb1cdeb9db4f. Error with certificate 0: self signed certificate.
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  538. Christopher M0YNG I'm really enjoying the international away messages :)
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  560. tom Oh? Like what christ
  561. tom Christopher M0YNG:
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  593. mjk Probably all the different presence changes in the log :) I'm not seeing it (Conversations here), but can imagine
  594. mjk Would be nice to be able to internationalize the messages
  595. Licaon_Kter `xml:lang`
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  597. mjk Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra supports that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted
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  599. mjk Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra support that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted
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  601. MattJ We're trying to move away from that kind of thing
  602. MattJ Some clients do support stuff like that
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  605. MattJ But I think in a future protocol update we'd probably restrict things to just a single item with a language tag
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  608. mjk MattJ: Hmm. Why though? Too much complexity?
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  611. MattJ Various issues. The most interesting one are potential security issues
  612. MattJ If you send a message to this chat in multiple languages, some clients will show one message and some will show a different one
  613. mjk Ah, right
  614. MattJ That could trick humans (e.g. if I know the admin uses language A, and someone I want to insult uses language B, I can ensure they see different versions of the message)
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  616. MattJ It can also trick software that doesn't follow the rules identically to all other software
  617. Holger Sounds fun! And now Matt wants to break it.
  618. tom Humans are overrated anyways
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  620. MattJ Roll on robot uprising
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  624. mjk Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :) But another possible issue is sniffing out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering
  625. mjk Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :) But another possible issue is the ability to sniff out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering
  626. MattJ Well I'm half trying to deprecate status messages too, so... :)
  627. mjk Although can be easilly mitigated it privacy-consious clients by always displaying, e.g., english
  628. mjk Lol
  629. mjk Noo, have mercy
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  654. Christopher M0YNG yes, things like:
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  656. Christopher M0YNG > Jonny is xa, " (Nicht verfügbar wegen Untätigkeit seit mehr als 15 Minuten)"
  657. Christopher M0YNG > wladmis is away, " (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)"
  658. Christopher M0YNG etc
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  666. wladmis nice antifeature
  667. tom Not here or lost signal, but I'll see your messages when I return! =^.^= (since 5:12 am EST on 2021-02-23)
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