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moparisthebest
Kris: last time I tried it, it worked, but I never got around to implementing authentication, or a plugin on the muc side enforcing the same nick across all rooms on the same server
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Kris
ah, the original author 😉
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moparisthebest
I vaguely plan on rewriting it in rust someday
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Kris
hmm, how about a component interface with Oragono?
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allie
there was also PSYC, but I have no idea what the status is of that project these days. I think last I read they were going to be some new part of GNUnet, but the older software was kinda cool in accepting connections from a variety of client types
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mimi89999
Establishing a secure connection from otr.chat to lebihan.pl failed. Certificate hash: 4395c62e3313bc33482c0072eba7cf5182ce24768074d43ec9fcbb1cdeb9db4f. Error with certificate 0: self signed certificate.
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Christopher M0YNG
I'm really enjoying the international away messages :)
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tom
Oh? Like what christ
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tom
Christopher M0YNG:
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mjk
Probably all the different presence changes in the log :) I'm not seeing it (Conversations here), but can imagine
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mjk
Would be nice to be able to internationalize the messages
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Licaon_Kter
`xml:lang`
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mjk
Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra supports that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted✎ -
mjk
Licaon_Kter: yes, that. I'm just wondering, if a client starts sending such multi-language presence, does all the infra support that and it would "just work", or it's somerhing no-one attempted ✏
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MattJ
We're trying to move away from that kind of thing
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MattJ
Some clients do support stuff like that
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MattJ
But I think in a future protocol update we'd probably restrict things to just a single item with a language tag
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mjk
MattJ: Hmm. Why though? Too much complexity?
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MattJ
Various issues. The most interesting one are potential security issues
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MattJ
If you send a message to this chat in multiple languages, some clients will show one message and some will show a different one
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mjk
Ah, right
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MattJ
That could trick humans (e.g. if I know the admin uses language A, and someone I want to insult uses language B, I can ensure they see different versions of the message)
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MattJ
It can also trick software that doesn't follow the rules identically to all other software
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Holger
Sounds fun! And now Matt wants to break it.
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tom
Humans are overrated anyways
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MattJ
Roll on robot uprising
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mjk
Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :) But another possible issue is sniffing out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering✎ -
mjk
Heheh. I'm certain doing this stuff in message body _is_ trouble. Status though... Yeah, sure, one can insult using status messages, but... idk, feels stretchy :) But another possible issue is the ability to sniff out users' locales through this, combined with a bit of social engineering ✏
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MattJ
Well I'm half trying to deprecate status messages too, so... :)
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mjk
Although can be easilly mitigated it privacy-consious clients by always displaying, e.g., english
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mjk
Lol
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mjk
Noo, have mercy
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Christopher M0YNG
yes, things like:
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Christopher M0YNG
> Jonny is xa, " (Nicht verfügbar wegen Untätigkeit seit mehr als 15 Minuten)"
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Christopher M0YNG
> wladmis is away, " (Автостатус 'Отошел' по причине бездействия более 5 мин)"
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Christopher M0YNG
etc
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wladmis
nice antifeature
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tom
Not here or lost signal, but I'll see your messages when I return! =^.^= (since 5:12 am EST on 2021-02-23)