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00:13:55 mjk csh: https://www.ted.com/talks/james_veitch_this_is_what_happens_when_you_reply_to_spam_email Maybe you weren't friendly enough?
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03:48:50 raghavgururajan How's jabber.network different from xmpp.net?
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05:46:06 menel raghavgururajan: the one checks the server xeps the other messures tsl.
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07:14:15 raghavgururajan menel: Ah thanks!
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07:23:59 tom hey btw
07:24:09 tom you can also test the server's tls with testssl.sh
07:24:26 tom it supports the xmpp STARTTLS variant
07:24:37 jonas’ yes, but you need a very recent version for s2s tests
07:24:49 tom the XMPP observatory seems to have severe threading limitations
07:25:01 jonas’ the xmpp observatory runs on a very old stack which nobody knows how to maintain anymore
07:25:08 tom oh
07:25:10 jonas’ I do have a rewrite (incidentally based on testssl.sh) in the pipeline :)
07:25:24 tom oh neat, thanks jonas’!
07:25:35 tom jonas’: what is the old stack?
07:25:36 jonas’ it is actually mostly done, only needs the DNSSEC and DANE stuff sorted out.
07:25:59 jonas’ tom, a fork of a subset of prosody’s XMPP stack with some strange patches, surrounded by more bits of lua and php
07:26:13 tom jonas’: I would like to follow your work on the rewrite
07:26:26 jonas’ tom, you’re welcome to: https://github.com/horazont/testxmpp
07:26:37 tom thanks
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07:41:38 ernst.on.tour Whats about: ``` echo | openssl s_client -starttls xmpp -servername domain.tls -connect domain.tld:5222 2>/dev/null | openssl x509 -noout -subject -dates -checkend $(($days*24*60*60)) && echo lives more than $days || echo need new cert ```
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07:53:49 tom » 2>/dev/null discards stderr, » openssl x509 -noout -subject -dates -checkend $(($days*24*60*60)) && echo lives more than $days || echo need new cert downloads the certificate, checks it's experation date and checks it's it's close to expiring
07:54:28 tom » openssl s_client -starttls xmpp -servername domain.tls -connect domain.tld:5222 connects and setups up TLS over the STARTTLS method
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08:01:06 ernst.on.tour I test my cert with above code, it's a oneliner in crontab
08:01:52 tom I just use dyhdrated.sh and a slightly modified quark
08:02:02 tom quark can be found on suckless.org
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08:02:17 tom it's a minimal webserver written in less then 1000LOC
08:02:41 tom dehydrated is an ACME implementation written in a few hundred lines of bash
08:03:08 ernst.on.tour Change "echo need new cert" to "curl ...." to send via mod_post_msg an xmpp-msg to me
08:03:21 tom it's very good and keeping the certs fresh, and even more advanced things like stapling, cipher selection, and alternative names
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08:04:23 tom there's a line in /etc/aliases the redirects root to postmaster@nuegia.net, and cronic, another small shell script ensures cron only fires an email if there's a problem
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08:04:44 tom it's a very extensible and simple system
08:04:53 tom many daemons and users across the system can use it
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08:09:40 ernst.on.tour I use https://github.com/srvrco/getssl to generate my certs
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