XMPP Service Operators - 2021-04-01

I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :(

That's a shame, how come?

Oh sad!

They don't maintain it that well

To much work I guess

Here's the letter: https://bin.disroot.org/?18905bd78aeb2444#Be4pLQ6Yo4NRmqhY7k68KteeJBRZgqV9gTvqrKRunjES Basically, they don't have the resources for everything they're trying to do.

> while providing important features which XMPP does not have..

I'm really curious as to what those are.

That's only true if you haven't been kept in the loop

that's what i was thinking, what does matrix have that a good xmpp server does not?

Probably omemo, http upload, history sync

haha ya we don't have that

Their server is just really undermaintained

Well, fair enough

ya

Better to take down a server that gives a bad taste to newbies than to keep it kicking along

Yeah. It's unfortunate. I'd donate more to them if I had it. I assume they got hit doubly during the pandemic. More people online & less people willing/able to spend money.

i'd open my server up but it's not quite there yet

Same. I've got a long way to go and I keep kicking myself out of the ssh session tinkering with the firewall. Lol

It looks like Docker pulled in iptables and iptables / nftables rules are being written by ufw.

i'm pretty close, just the nice to haves aren't ready. like http_upload or external would be better, and stun/turn.. then i'm good i think

Do you keep your servers under any kind of configuration management?

yes, a bit, maybe? :) what do you mean?

so probably no

Do you have an install script for your servers?

in a general sense yes, the whole thing is deployed as code with ansible

Ansible or even just some shell?

Ah cool

I haven't

but I've been learning ansible so I'm probably going to port my hand-done stuff to it

yep, it's ansible bash and docker all the way, with a bastion (vps) for the static ip so i have the actual server in my house

i'm using homelabos, but have been contributing and adding services. the current one is prosody, it's working now but not yet ready to merge. i want it to be super easy and result in a nice base server that's easy to add to

so a bit more templating and stuff before i get it merged, maybe add an external http upload service but i need to create the docker image as there isn't one afaik

thndrbvr: > I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :( known thing since June 2020 or so ✏

TL;DR: too much metadata https://pramen.io/en/2020/06/interview-with-riseup-tech-collective/