XMPP Service Operators - 2021-04-01


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  9. thndrbvr I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :(
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  12. rob That's a shame, how come?
  13. kousu Oh sad!
  14. kousu They don't maintain it that well
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  16. rob To much work I guess
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  19. thndrbvr Here's the letter: https://bin.disroot.org/?18905bd78aeb2444#Be4pLQ6Yo4NRmqhY7k68KteeJBRZgqV9gTvqrKRunjES Basically, they don't have the resources for everything they're trying to do.
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  22. kousu > while providing important features which XMPP does not have..
  23. thndrbvr I'm really curious as to what those are.
  24. kousu That's only true if you haven't been kept in the loop
  25. rob that's what i was thinking, what does matrix have that a good xmpp server does not?
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  27. kousu Probably omemo, http upload, history sync
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  29. rob haha ya we don't have that
  30. kousu Their server is just really undermaintained
  31. kousu Well, fair enough
  32. rob ya
  33. kousu Better to take down a server that gives a bad taste to newbies than to keep it kicking along
  34. thndrbvr Yeah. It's unfortunate. I'd donate more to them if I had it. I assume they got hit doubly during the pandemic. More people online & less people willing/able to spend money.
  35. rob i'd open my server up but it's not quite there yet
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  43. thndrbvr Same. I've got a long way to go and I keep kicking myself out of the ssh session tinkering with the firewall. Lol
  44. thndrbvr It looks like Docker pulled in iptables and iptables / nftables rules are being written by ufw.
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  47. rob i'm pretty close, just the nice to haves aren't ready. like http_upload or external would be better, and stun/turn.. then i'm good i think
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  53. kousu Do you keep your servers under any kind of configuration management?
  54. rob yes, a bit, maybe? :) what do you mean?
  55. rob so probably no
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  62. kousu Do you have an install script for your servers?
  63. rob in a general sense yes, the whole thing is deployed as code with ansible
  64. kousu Ansible or even just some shell?
  65. kousu Ah cool
  66. kousu I haven't
  67. kousu but I've been learning ansible so I'm probably going to port my hand-done stuff to it
  68. rob yep, it's ansible bash and docker all the way, with a bastion (vps) for the static ip so i have the actual server in my house
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  70. rob i'm using homelabos, but have been contributing and adding services. the current one is prosody, it's working now but not yet ready to merge. i want it to be super easy and result in a nice base server that's easy to add to
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  73. rob so a bit more templating and stuff before i get it merged, maybe add an external http upload service but i need to create the docker image as there isn't one afaik
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  146. Licaon_Kter thndrbvr: > I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :( known thing since Aug 2020 or so
  147. Licaon_Kter thndrbvr: > I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :( known thing since June 2020 or so
  148. Licaon_Kter TL;DR: too much metadata https://pramen.io/en/2020/06/interview-with-riseup-tech-collective/
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