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thndrbvr
I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :(
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rob
That's a shame, how come?
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kousu
Oh sad!
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kousu
They don't maintain it that well
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rob
To much work I guess
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thndrbvr
Here's the letter: https://bin.disroot.org/?18905bd78aeb2444#Be4pLQ6Yo4NRmqhY7k68KteeJBRZgqV9gTvqrKRunjES Basically, they don't have the resources for everything they're trying to do.
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kousu
> while providing important features which XMPP does not have..
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thndrbvr
I'm really curious as to what those are.
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kousu
That's only true if you haven't been kept in the loop
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rob
that's what i was thinking, what does matrix have that a good xmpp server does not?
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kousu
Probably omemo, http upload, history sync
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rob
haha ya we don't have that
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kousu
Their server is just really undermaintained
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kousu
Well, fair enough
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rob
ya
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kousu
Better to take down a server that gives a bad taste to newbies than to keep it kicking along
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thndrbvr
Yeah. It's unfortunate. I'd donate more to them if I had it. I assume they got hit doubly during the pandemic. More people online & less people willing/able to spend money.
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rob
i'd open my server up but it's not quite there yet
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thndrbvr
Same. I've got a long way to go and I keep kicking myself out of the ssh session tinkering with the firewall. Lol
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thndrbvr
It looks like Docker pulled in iptables and iptables / nftables rules are being written by ufw.
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rob
i'm pretty close, just the nice to haves aren't ready. like http_upload or external would be better, and stun/turn.. then i'm good i think
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kousu
Do you keep your servers under any kind of configuration management?
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rob
yes, a bit, maybe? :) what do you mean?
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rob
so probably no
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kousu
Do you have an install script for your servers?
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rob
in a general sense yes, the whole thing is deployed as code with ansible
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kousu
Ansible or even just some shell?
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kousu
Ah cool
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kousu
I haven't
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kousu
but I've been learning ansible so I'm probably going to port my hand-done stuff to it
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rob
yep, it's ansible bash and docker all the way, with a bastion (vps) for the static ip so i have the actual server in my house
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rob
i'm using homelabos, but have been contributing and adding services. the current one is prosody, it's working now but not yet ready to merge. i want it to be super easy and result in a nice base server that's easy to add to
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rob
so a bit more templating and stuff before i get it merged, maybe add an external http upload service but i need to create the docker image as there isn't one afaik
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Licaon_Kter
thndrbvr: > I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :( known thing since Aug 2020 or so✎ -
Licaon_Kter
thndrbvr: > I got an e-mail from Riseup saying they're shutting down their XMPP server :( known thing since June 2020 or so ✏
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Licaon_Kter
TL;DR: too much metadata https://pramen.io/en/2020/06/interview-with-riseup-tech-collective/