XMPP Service Operators - 2021-04-16

tom: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation

Misha, FWIW, I need turn on my mobile operator.

If the technical support of your operator is qualified, you can ask him about it;)

jonas’:

Misha, last time I checked they were doing carrier grade NAT and no IPv6...

I have no hope.

and setting up TURN + STUN is not much effort compared to only STUN. only STUN is already an abuse target, TURN doesn’t make this much worse (if you use auth that is)

jonas’: I want only Peer-to-Peer

sorry for your loss

if I or my users have problems with voice transmission, I will turn on TURN

if they tell you and not put it off as "XMPP is crap, let’s use whatsapp" ✏

Why XMPP is crap?

It's BEST messages platform! WhatsApp is spying shit!

> If the technical support of your operator is qualified, you can ask him about it;) Who ever wanted to do that anyway? Did you? No, and certainly no other people. > Why XMPP is crap? Because you as the admin disable a feature...

> Who ever wanted to do that anyway? Did you? No, and certainly no other people. > Because you as the admin disable a feature... Because I want only P2P

Voip

Not having TURN is annoying because calls would work in some cases but not in others in seemingly random manner (eg mobile connections) and that's a poor UX.

In megafon and tele2 its works but in BeeLine it isnt work

Misha, that’s fine if *you* only want that, but making that decision for your users is ... not nice.

because they probably don’t care

OK, I want P2P preffered

Ans if p2p isbt workk, then I want TURN

> OK, I want P2P prefferedc > Ans if p2p isbt workk, then I want TURN And it works just like that

Really?

Setup TURN then

Yes...TURN is used if STUN doesn't yield good IPs Read help.conversations.im iirc

I will check tgis on static IP ....

yes, TURN is not preferred by ICE, because it’s stupid to do so when you can have a direct connection

that’s why testing TURN is hard ;)

you need to find a netwrok which is broken enough

despite my service having a TURN server, when I do a call between Dino and Conversations when my phone and laptop are on the same wifi, they’ll not even go via the internet.

OK.

you can check out the ICE priorities yourself https://gist.github.com/iNPUTmice/a28c438d9bbf3f4a3d4c663ffaa224d9#testing-without-conversations

I'm not sure my server even properly supports turn

It has an option

To specify a turn server manually or 'don't use'

And enter turn credentials

But my turn server isn't using credientials it's using tokens generated by the xmpp server

I have no idea if turn actually works in psi+

tom, to get technical the token makes it possible to generate time-based credentials, so if one was patient enough they could get the credentials using XML console in Psi+ and input it there hehe, but of course this is annoying 🙂

Oh my

I'm not doing that, but I appreciate the explanation

this is just some coding to be done by Psi+ devs to do iq to get the credentials before the call

Not a Rocket Science (tm)

Unfortunately

It's a bit of a dragon that can only be tamed by it's creator

Or maybe that's just what all C++ code is like

I tried to change the http_file_upload logic

it's a bit beyond me