XMPP Service Operators - 2021-05-21


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  90. Jake Can someone point me in a direction to log data using xmpp
  91. Jake ????????????????
  92. ben what do you mean?
  93. Jake I use xoa for my hypervisor
  94. Jake and it has a xmpp plugin
  95. Jake and I Want to log data over it
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  103. rob Not sure, did you read the docs for it?
  104. rob I'm assuming it would need an account, then you configure it to send you alerts?
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  106. rob https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/backup_reports.html#email
  107. rob Is that what you mean? Jake
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  437. qy authbot, MattJ, ralphm: can we get a muc icon?
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  439. MattJ If someone contributes one, sure :)
  440. MattJ Not something I have time for right now
  441. qy https://xmpp.xa0.uk:5281/upload/zhQnWLdzCcXyI-Y-/grWdxbeOR6eBW7LG157NWg.png
  442. qy Hows that :p
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  445. Sam That's what the xsf channel uses which would be confusing
  446. croax Looks like more XSF & protocol oriented
  447. qy https://xmpp.xa0.uk:5281/upload/ybn9DSB9Kiu6t6fD/p1q4N2IlQoquk3q-zKDtFg.png
  448. qy This? Lol
  449. croax :-) trademark?
  450. qy Aw
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  452. qy https://xmpp.xa0.uk:5281/upload/QVR8XgiHFUTB54xY/mhHXAB6QRWOaWQdkDJL1Ug.jpg
  453. qy Surely?
  454. rob Perfect
  455. qy Niiiice
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  458. qy Ma
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  460. qy MattJ: ralphm: there ya go
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  462. Sam no way that's going to work in a tiny icon :) you won't even be able to tell what it is at icon size
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  466. rob Sorry I was kidding
  467. Sam I honestly wasn't sure :)
  468. rob I'm trying to thing of a good idea though
  469. rob I'm trying to think of a good idea though
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  471. Araucaria I made one, but it probably isn't appropriate
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  474. rob But now I'm intrigued
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  476. qy Oh lol
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  478. qy Araucaria: go go go
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  482. qy https://xmpp.xa0.uk:5281/upload/OnieHLdIrVGcMb_y/WbBmYr21TQOtoQJPFrimYg.png
  483. qy This?
  484. Araucaria Mine was a picture of soldiers with the XMPP logo for faces
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  490. qy .. lol
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  516. qrpnxz lol
  517. qrpnxz qy, that's cool. You make that?
  518. qy Heck no, nicked it off some svg
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  522. rob That kind of idea is what I was thinking though, something webby and interconnected
  523. qy Just use that then
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  525. qy Its just a button icon
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  531. rob As long as it's free to use I don't see why not
  532. rob Not that I'm any decision maker here 🤓
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  541. qy That would be MattJ and ralphm 👀
  542. qy We good guys?
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  550. Araucaria what is the license of that file?
  551. Araucaria also how does that symbol reflect/correlate with xmpp?
  552. qy Not licenced, was a random svg. And, its network-y :p
  553. Araucaria no license means you can't use it
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  558. Sam meh, mo one will care about an icon on a chat
  559. Araucaria I care
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  563. Sam you don't have legal standing
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  565. Araucaria 💁
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  572. qy Ooh nice
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  574. pintosesk I'll root around for the official XMPP SVG and add sone vector objects to differentiate it, maybe, and see what ya think.
  575. qy An icon
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  578. pintosesk if it doesn't have a license, can't it get a license added to it?
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  582. rob Very nice
  583. Licaon_Kter Corona service ops? Oh wa-
  584. xorman whoa we have avatar!
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  587. qy Blessed day
  588. Martin Looks good also it would be nice to see a link to operators although I don't know how to do that. Adding a wrench and skrewdriver?
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  590. Anhydrous Sweet avatar!
  591. MattJ Yes, great idea! Off you go: https://matthewwild.co.uk/uploads/xmpp-network-logo.svg :)
  592. jonas’ looks unhappy ;)
  593. Link Mauve Only in IPv6 though.
  594. Martin MattJ: Sorry hockey world cup started. Maybe I play with it tomorrow.
  595. MattJ TIL there's a hockey world cup, but of course there is
  596. qy Lol
  597. Anhydrous Stanley cup?
  598. MattJ Happy to take any amendments to the avatar, but not going to spend more time on it than I just did
  599. Anhydrous MattJ: looks good, matt!
  600. Martin MattJ: To be clear: icehockey, not field hockey. 🙂
  601. moparisthebest it's certainly an improvement to [#] with a random color, good job :)
  602. Martin Anhydrous: > Stanley cup? Nope, iihf world cup. Not as exciting as Olympics as it is yearly, but still… Gotta watch some nice hockey.
  603. Link Mauve MattJ, here is a cleaned-up version that is about 50% of the size of the original, and lower than the 10 KiB limit even when base64’d:
  604. Link Mauve https://linkmauve.fr/files/xmpp-network-logo.svg
  605. Anhydrous Martin: TIL
  606. MattJ Link Mauve, the room is using a PNG, but thanks ;)
  607. Link Mauve Ah.
  608. MattJ If someone edits it, they can base it off your version
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  610. Martin Anhydrous: You're profile pic looks like you're more into КХЛ.
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  612. Anhydrous Martin: that is incidental. It is nicholas cage in traditional kazakh garb with a thousand yard stare. I am not kazakh, but thought it looked so cool.
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  622. pintosesk aw, this icon being used is super nice.
  623. pintosesk good stuff!
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  639. MattJ :)
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  649. millesimus Nice MUC avatar 👍
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  679. Martin Anhydrous: I haven't seen anyone wearing this outfit when I was in Kazakhstan. 🙁
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  682. Anhydrous Kazakhstan is modern
  683. Anhydrous Astana is space age
  684. Anhydrous <3 kazakhstan
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  754. christian Link Mauve, great svg !!! Congrats ..
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  815. Ellenor Malik I like
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  842. raghavgururajan Nice logo!
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  898. tom It shows a fully connected mesh but xmpp is a partially connected mesh right?
  899. MattJ Hi tom, we missed you :)
  900. tom Hi
  901. tom I wasn't gone that long was I?
  902. MattJ No idea, you weren't around earlier the one time I looked
  903. tom Glad to be missed =3
  904. Menel Alle the operators are connected in this riomt, sonit fits.. Its just a room avatar...
  905. MattJ I wanted to ask if you ever got federation working over I2P, iirc it was something you had brought up a while back
  906. Menel Alle the operators are connected in this room sonit fits.. Its just a room avatar...
  907. tom Oh, well
  908. tom That required making a custom module
  909. tom I didn't install it myself but i know the person who did
  910. tom I didn't really want to install a module that wasn't part of community-modules and managed separately, so i stuck with mod_onions
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  913. tom The problem is that mod_darknet and mod_onion conflicts
  914. tom One of my friends decided to finally merge the two and clean it up, but i don't remember their git repo at this time
  915. MattJ Might it be this one? https://github.com/majestrate/mod_darknet
  916. tom No that's the i2p-only one
  917. Araucaria Why i2p over Tor?
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  919. tom Tor is centralized
  920. tom Tor doesn't support udp
  921. tom When people attack the tor central servers, everybody has downtime
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  930. tom The downside is that the latency and bandwidth *can* be worse
  931. tom Sometimes
  932. tom That's because i2p is decentralized on random people's computers
  933. tom Rather than just big professionally hosted cloud servers
  934. tom For xmpp maybe that doesn't matter so much
  935. Kris (owned by the NSA 😉 )
  936. tom It's kind of annoying on interactive web usuage
  937. tom But that's also a privacy plus that makes timing correlation attacks and global adversary attacks much harder
  938. tom Oh
  939. tom And i2p does have a sense of transient 'tunnel id'
  940. tom Which is helpful for metigating ddos attacks or temporarily blocking abusers without privacy implications
  941. tom Basically, you can tell originators apart for a short period and for a local-loopback tunnel the different originators come over to your daemons as 127.0.0.N
  942. tom Or ipv6
  943. tom An actually use for the rest of the 127.0.0 block
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  945. MattJ I might have a play with it some time, it interests me a little more than tor
  946. MattJ Basically had someone asking for something like federation with hidden services, and just wondered about what options there were (currently and/or with a bit of work)
  947. Araucaria I did onion only xmpp a few years back, but every bit of it was leaky
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  952. tom It works
  953. tom The tor option is more mature, but both work and are relatively simple
  954. qy > i2p over Tor
  955. qy this seems overkill
  956. tom Honestly I really should get both tor and i2p working over the same time
  957. tom I've just been busy with other things
  958. Araucaria qy: I meant what are the benefits of using i2p instead of tor
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  964. qy ohhhh
  965. qy jesus
  966. qy good
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  968. tom That's not what we are talking about qy
  969. tom I'm talking about federating with tor-only, i2p-only, and tor/i2p mapped xmpp servers at the same time
  970. tom MattJ: the tor route IS something i've had to do with some nodes in other countries who deal with internet censorship
  971. tom Setup a tor-map so that the s2s connection is routed over tor bypassing the country's censors
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  976. Araucaria https://gist.github.com/dllud/a46d4a555e31dfeff6ad41dcf20729ac Is there any better map then that one available?
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  1002. tom Araucaria: I would not use some rando's published list
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  1004. tom Also
  1005. tom Those are using the older deprecated and less secure onionv2
  1006. tom Contact operators directly and ask them for their onions, verify their jid via https://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0157-1.1.1.html
  1007. tom To confirm your actually speaking to the operator
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  1010. tom It would be nice if there was a way to publish onions and b32.i2ps via alt-connection-methods or dns or something
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  1013. Araucaria Put the onion in disco?
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  1015. Araucaria I didn't even realize those were all v2. Shame, v3 has been around for so long already.
  1016. Amolith How would I go about debugging why a/v calls aren't working on my ejabberd server? 🤔️
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  1019. xorman There was a gist from inputmice that detailed it
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  1021. xorman https://gist.github.com/iNPUTmice/a28c438d9bbf3f4a3d4c663ffaa224d9
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  1034. Amolith Heh that took all of like two minutes
  1035. Amolith thanks
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