XMPP Service Operators - 2021-06-05

seems as if xmpp.jp has some issues at the moment with one of its nodes (tokyo.xmpp.jp) and/or its loadbalancer. Tried to contact them via website contact form…

> Do you have a mastodon or some site to link to you in the Newsletter? ij@nerdculture.de is Mastodon, ij@nerdica.net is Friendica and https://hookipa.net/ is my XMPP service website…

Does anyone know if and which v3 .onion will be valid for jabber.ccc.de in the future?

maybe something like that would be nice to have for XMPP servers as well: https://github.com/freewizard/fediverse-matrix-keygen

IDGI, what does it do?

easy onboarding and account management from a fediverse server

What does it use the fediverse stuff for?

kind of get them where they already are 🙂

if you have an existing mastodon or pleroma instance this can be used to easily add a xmpp server I think

or rather matrix in this case

Oh, is it just mirroring accounts? Like if you have a fediverse account it makes a matrix one for you too so the servers both have the same users?

rather that you can selfservice accounts though it

Gotcha; if you have a fediverse account it lets you make a matrix account so only people with existing accounts can also be on the homeserver

I guess also yes

Also? It does something else? Sorry, I'm not trying to be dense, I just didn't understand any of the other things you said

And I don't really understand their readme either

I mean, I understand self-service account creation, just not what it has to do with Mastodon.

it is integrated int mastodon then I think

*into

easy to use for existing users

Kris: I made a connector like that for GNU social.... Need to do some minor work on it to make it support password-changes and maybe registration in the XMPP clients, I think....

ah cool, but I guess that doesn't work with anything else?

Reading through the code this looks straightforward enough. It would be even easier for XMPP since you'd just create an invite barcode and not have to connect to it as well like you do with matrix

Kris: Well..., I'd guess the equivalent matrix module probably wouldn't work with anything other than matrix either?

Kris: though actually I just made a module for an existing "ejabberd extauth middleware for other things using PHP" package.

meant other than Gnu Social

Kris: it works with whatever other back-end modules are implemented; IIRC there was a drupal module and a couple others when I got to it...

ah that is pretty nice then

Kris: https://github.com/rozzin/ejabberd-auth-php

too bad I recently switched to Prosody though 😉

Huh—just found this as well, which I guess is doing something else... which I don't understand: https://github.com/mitchellurgero/ejabberd_gnusocial

Oh, wow--weird: that script is actually not authenticating against a local GNU social DB like I am, it's actually calling out to *qvitter* to authenticate, *over HTTP*.

Kris: yeah, no idea about how this sort of thing works in Prosody; I'd probably look at the Snikket module or something as a reference.

Use easy onboarding instead, that way it's not server specific.

Sam: is it? Like, is there an implementation that just works with the different servers?

I don't think you'd even have to talk to the servers. I don't remember how it works, but I assume you'd just give your app the signing key and then it could create invites itself.

The servers would get those invites when the clients scan the barcode, then they would verify the signature and create the account however they do that internally.

This? https://docs-develop.pleroma.social/backend/configuration/howto_ejabberd/

Oh drat, re-reading this it doesn't seem like this works the way I thought it did, so you would have to have an admin user on the XMPP server and can't just share a secret. Oh well.

Relatedly: https://blob.cat/notice/9zY7zGONxqCdsFPScq#selected

how's the state of MIX and how can I try it?

xorman: tigase has the only implementation