XMPP Service Operators - 2021-06-13

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  64. arcseconds hi folks, I'm looking for an iOS XMPP client that can 'do gifs', meaning send messages with gifs attached from giphy or tenor or something like that.
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  66. arcseconds this is a client question, not a server question, hopefully that's OK :-)
  67. arcseconds even being able to paste a gif from a gif keyboard would suffice. the ones I've tried so far only seem to paste text.
  68. arcseconds (those being siskin, chatsecure, and monal )
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  79. qrpnxz can we just let gifs die already
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  103. rozzin "gif keyboard"? How far into the 19A0s are we now?
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  150. Licaon_Kter arcseconds: there are none...other Siskin is kinda the best right now Monal will get on par soon™ ChatSecure is not actively developed
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  261. Kris arcseconds, you can use Movim in a browser. has gif support afaik
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  266. Licaon_Kter Kris: and supports Tenor iirc if the server admin wants that
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  274. Kris yeah that is what I meant
  275. Kris did anyone ever look into making a 3rd party webclient for iOS from Movim?
  276. Kris I know edhelas doesn't care much about iOS and barely keeps the Android app functional
  277. Kris but are webapps even a thing on iOS?
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  318. arcseconds Licaon_Kter: thanks.
  319. arcseconds Kris: yup, I have a movim installation and I've got Tenor set up. My (small handful of) users are all attached to their IOs devices though it seems.
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  322. Kris arcseconds, so how well does Movim work in a iOS browser?
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  324. Kris I think it doesn't support PWA, but that is anyways broken on iOS AFAIK
  325. arcseconds currently the behaviour is recipients get a link rather than a gif, but I have just discovered that normal file uploads from anywhere aren't actually working.
  326. arcseconds whas is PWA?
  327. Kris progressive web app
  328. arcseconds I've used it for about 5 seconds in Safari so I'm not really sure so far :-)
  329. Kris I would assume it working well, but no push notifications
  330. arcseconds it wasn't obviously broken? :-)
  331. arcseconds it may work fantastically for all I know at the moment.
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  333. Kris in general Movim is well suited for use on mobile devices
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  335. arcseconds anyway, clearly the next step for me is getting file uploads working. No joy so far but I've only just started looking into it.
  336. Kris http_upload_external is your friend
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  338. arcseconds Kris: I did try it briefly on my android phone and it did seem to have a nice enough responsive design thing going on.
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  340. Kris the main advantage to other webclients is that the actual xmpp cient runs on the server and you are just remote controlling it via the mobile browser. so disconnects and apps being put to sleep doesn't effect it much
  341. Kris in theory ideally suited for mobile use
  342. Kris but lacks push notifications on anything but Android so far 🙁
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  345. arcseconds I am using ejabberd so I think my friend may actually be mod_http_upload?
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  347. arcseconds ejabberd logs say it's receiving the file now, but it's not doing anything with it and it's not telling me what's going on as far as I can see. However, it's late and I'm about to head to bed.
  348. arcseconds (the directory also exists now, its prior inexistence wouldn't have helped)
  349. Holger arcseconds: You could show the `mod_http_upload` configuration and the exact log line(s) you're seeing.
  350. Holger Maybe in the ejabberd room: xmpp:ejabberd@conference.process-one.net?join
  351. arcseconds Holger: yup, sorry, was more continuing the conversation rather than asking for help at this stage. I usually stick at things for more than 10 minutes before asking for help :-)
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  353. arcseconds it's highly likely I've made a mistake that will be completely transparent to me once I've had some sleep :-)
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  355. arcseconds more relevant for the ejabberd room, yes.
  356. Holger arcseconds: 🙂 As you like. It might help to be aware that upload works in two steps: (1) Client requests an upload URL ("slot") from the XMPP server, (2) client uploads file via HTTP. Maybe you're just seeing a log message regarding the first step, and the HTTP connection fails.
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  358. arcseconds ah right. that would indeed explain why the logs stop.
  359. arcseconds thanks.
  360. Kris dunno, but in my experience even with ejabberd an external http_upload component was working better. With Prosody it is pretty much a must until their new mod that is currently developed in trunk hits the stable version
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  374. Holger Yes I'd recommend that as well, but that's kinda unrelated to initial setup problems (the internal solution does work, of course).
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  380. Martin Kris: I'm using the new module in trunk for a while and it's working very well. So I hope it'll come to stable users with 0.12 😃
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  382. Kris yes it looks promising indeed
  383. Martin Although I hope they don't release 0.12 too soon as there's no released version of profanity working with it yet. But master works fine already.
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  412. Ellenor Malik why is there no way a client can in practice use a third party http_upload srv?
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  414. jonas’ Martin, huh, how does profanity not work with 0.12?
  415. jonas’ Martin, huh, how does profanity not work with 0.12 / trunk?
  416. Menel jonas’: the new http_Upload module doesn't work. Trunk in general no problems.
  417. Licaon_Kter Martin: what's the magic new module doing special?
  418. jonas’ I wonder what the difference is?
  419. Menel Martin will know, because go-sendxmpp had the same problem initially
  420. Martin > Martin, huh, how does profanity not work with 0.12 / trunk? With the new internal http upload. As it wasn't setting the auth headers.
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  422. Martin > Martin: what's the magic new module doing special? The prosody devs will know the details but afaik it is no more buffering the whole file and taking more than double the file size in RAM while writing.
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  424. Licaon_Kter 👍
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  563. rob > dunno, but in my experience even with ejabberd an external http_upload component was working better. With Prosody it is pretty much a must until their new mod that is currently developed in trunk hits the stable version Ya I'm using the internal http_upload with 0.11.8 and it works fine
  564. rob But trunk is improved
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  581. Holger Ellenor Malik: > why is there no way a client can in practice use a third party http_upload srv? Technically, no problem. But servers typically only permit local users to upload files.
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  740. Ellenor Malik > Holger wrote: > Ellenor Malik: > Technically, no problem. But servers typically only permit local users to upload files. yes. Remote h_u would require a co-operative h_u server, likely with a login system to replace the slot system. But it then makes no exigences on the Jabber server itself. Theoretically, I can "upload" a FreeBSD ISO, whether my server supports h_u or not, by crafting a http_upload file send message to link to FreeBSD's HTTP download server. Technically, upload need not be the Jabber client's remit, only linking
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  743. Ellenor Malik Am I talking crazy, here?
  744. Sam That wouldn't be http upload, per say, just an out-of-band link
  745. Sam but you're right that you could just send any link
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