XMPP Service Operators - 2021-06-25


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  547. MattJ Channel guidelines are now live: https://xmpp.org/community/channels/operators
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  551. Licaon_Kter 👍
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  553. Kris heh, nce touch with the automatic membership authbot
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  555. Kris Now I feel super important running my own server 😀
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  558. MattJ :)
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  563. Ellenor&c Bjornsdottir o:
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  633. Link Mauve Ok, I need to fix the dark theme for this page, the titles are completely unreadable.
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  636. jonas’ noticed that too, haven’t found the time yet to address that
  637. jonas’ on the bright side (pun not intended) the page makes perfect sense even without the headings, so there’s that
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  678. rob What's the difference between a member (per authbot) and participant in the room? Or is being a member not visible?
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  682. rob NM, I figured it out
  683. moparisthebest I'm not sure there's any consistency at all between how different clients display all that
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  689. rob I'm using C atm, I can see participants where some are a member, others 'no affiliation'
  690. Wojtek @rob role vs affiliation?
  691. Ellenor Malik Member is like how some channels use voice on IRC. (Am i interpreting correctly?)
  692. rob Wojtek: ya, that's where I sorted out out
  693. rob Wojtek: ya, that's where I sorted it out
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  696. rob > Ok, I need to fix the dark theme for this page, the titles are completely unreadable. I can read the titles in dark mode. They could certainly be lighter but they are readable on my phone
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  703. ernst.on.tour Member could read/write, no affiliation has readonly as I remember right.
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  707. jonas’ member vs. no affiliation only matters when the room is set to "moderated" mode. in that case, what ernst.on.tour says applies.
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  715. rob Makes sense
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  717. moparisthebest Dino has Owner/Admin/Member/User (that order) and I don't know how that maps to whatever Conversations calls them
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  731. ernst.on.tour Owner/Admin/Member/Visitor you mean ? Thats the role and rights are linked against it Owner/Admin would be Moderator Member are Member and no affinitilation are Visitors
  732. ernst.on.tour Never find a diff between Owner or Admin, both are Mods
  733. ernst.on.tour moparisthebest: ^
  734. Харпер owner can destroy?
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  746. moparisthebest Conversations has Owner (Moderator)/Admin (Moderator)/Member (Participant)/No affiliation (Participant)
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  748. rob And I believe that's the difference between owner and admin, being able to destroy
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  754. Ellenor Malik as well they shouldn't
  755. Ellenor Malik That guideline is kinda bad
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  759. moparisthebest Fix it
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  774. a i don't understand very well what is written here, but probably it can affect all German XMPP servers https://www.sueddeutsche.de/wirtschaft/cybersicherheitsstrategie-seehofer-1.5332538
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  776. Kris lets see... it basically talks about mandatory backdoors in encrypted email and messengers, similar to other such current initiatives in the EU.
  777. Kris it's a draft law proposal
  778. Kris there have been many similar ones over the years
  779. Ellenor&c Bjornsdottir :/
  780. Ellenor&c Bjornsdottir Fuck the EU
  781. Kris I think it is mainly a problem since so many people host their xmpp servers on cheap German VPS providers
  782. Харпер ala Hetzner?
  783. Kris yes
  784. rob Mines in my house 😊
  785. Kris rob, yes ideally that would prevent any such stuff
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  787. Kris but the VPS providers... well they might be forced to prohibit hosting encryped messengers since they can't really install backdoors in all of them themselves. but it is all speculation at this pont
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  789. Kris *point
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  928. zp1.net Ellenor&c Bjornsdottir, :(
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  930. Ellenor&c Bjornsdottir Still a remainer, but god if i'm not disillusioned
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  934. zp1.net a, there is no content this article .. seehofer is a scarecrow
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  937. ernst.on.tour Chris, new nick ?
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  939. zp1.net ernst.on.tour, I noticed that people are looking for responsible for the zp1.net server so I call myself now this way
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  942. zp1.net now nobody can say that it is not known who administrates zp1.net
  943. ernst.on.tour Ah, okay, now you will be informed if someone query about zp1.net
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  946. zp1.net my english is so bad that even i sometimes don't understand what i wanted to say afterwards
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  950. ernst.on.tour Hopefully noone will scan for nicks to spam your server.
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  979. zp1.net my server is absolutly not interesting for spammers because we are boring ppl
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  1083. xorman so blabber.im is closing down
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  1101. croax Question to blabber admin: Why not to have proposed for someone here to take care about a migration plan? Nothing's mandatory but it would probably hurt a (small?) part of the XMPP community.
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  1115. Kris not so small... like 3000 active users. but it seems like this has been discussed and way forward was found. but I don't have any real details
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  1119. Martin >5000 online users
  1120. xorman did they at least sent a motd to all users?
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  1134. 4223 (private) xorman: no
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  1173. emus Martin: I also think is many more
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  1341. MattJ emus, based on?
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  1343. MattJ A handover to another admin would be ideal, there are many candidates and even offers. I don't understand the reasoning. It hurts XMPP though every time a large server goes down in this way :(
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  1345. Kris https://stats.blabber.im/d/000000020/blabber-im-overview?orgId=3&refresh=30s
  1346. Kris you can go back in time and see
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  1357. Link Mauve Kris, looks to hover around 3000 online users at max.
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  1359. Kris yes
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  1361. Kris and given that most probably use the always on blabber.im app, that is probably a good estimate of the total non-abandoned accounts
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  1395. emus MattJ: yes, based on stats
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  1398. MattJ So ~5000 monthly active users, ~3000 peak simultaneous connections
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  1400. rob We need to build an account migrator, export your data from any xmpp account and import to another later. As a bonus you can make backups.
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  1402. Харпер isn't snikket working on that?
  1403. rob Maybe an option to notify contacts before the move with your new account
  1404. rob Oh maybe, I'm not aware
  1405. rob If so, I'll help
  1406. rob That would be great
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  1408. emus But I think its not entirely the same always. I know many friends having push notification issues and are not logged in cirrently
  1409. emus anyway a bad story for xmpp here is a good one on the other hand: https://github.com/UWPX/UWPX-Client/pull/159
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