XMPP Service Operators - 2021-07-02

The operators list is so quiet I forgot I was subscribed and tried to do so again

:)

we all have XMPP, why use that terrible ancient SMTP protocol to discuss anything?

Lol

moparisthebest: useful for topics like "My server can't join/is blocked by the federation", "Whole federation is down due to a protocol flaw", "EMP destroyed all datacenters on earth", "XMPP.org has been sold to <winner>"... oh maybe not these last ones :-) ✏

Or for really important things, I guess

croax: you can email still after emp?

Licaon_Kter: only on our loRa mesh

Licaon_Kter: you could dig out some military equipments in a bunker which provide access a telnet console... probably more difficult to get an XMPP client!

`talk` then

"Whole federation is down due to a protocol flaw" sorry that's a matrix-only feature 🤣️

(I'm not joking/exagerating https://matrix.org/blog/2021/06/30/security-update-synapse-1-37-1-released )

oof

> memory explosions, I only knew about exploding laptop batteries…

> you could dig out some military equipments in a bunker which provide access a telnet console... probably more difficult to get an XMPP client! I think there may actually be a lot of military use of XMPP....

That would be neat

how are the XMPP addresses hidden? is our msgs routed through the room moderators' xmpp servers

through the MUC server yes

oh

the MUC server exposes addresses to moderators

how would you DM someone your address?

You can private message in most MUCs 512bit

> I think there may actually be a lot of military use of XMPP.... Isn't that stanag thing also used by military?

Stanag?

512bit: you can DM someone through the MUC without knowledge of his address (JID) but using his nick. Send your JID using this way.

/msg croax yo test

wait oops

:)

Oh sorry Licaon_Kter actually I though you were referring to cryptography while it was their nick!

Ellenor Malik: > Stanag? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0365.html

512bit: Address (if using raw protocol, but should RTM of your client) is mucname@hostmuc/nick

Also regarding military use: https://www.isode.com/markets/military-xmpp.html

Weird, federated muc's

Something we must remake ✏

It would be pretty cool

But also a bit matrix like

Would we be replicating the entire history?

Maybe, maybe not

from the point the federation was established, sure

That would be ideal I think. Just as each participant joins, maybe parties should honor the origin constraints for things like retention

sounds cool ✏