XMPP Service Operators - 2021-07-02


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  330. rob The operators list is so quiet I forgot I was subscribed and tried to do so again
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  336. MattJ :)
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  347. moparisthebest we all have XMPP, why use that terrible ancient SMTP protocol to discuss anything?
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  354. rob Lol
  355. croax moparisthebest: useful for topics like "My server can't join/is blocked by the federation", "Whole federation is down du to a protocol flaw", "EMP destroyed all datacenters on earth", "XMPP.org has been sold to <winner>"... oh maybe not these last ones :-)
  356. croax moparisthebest: useful for topics like "My server can't join/is blocked by the federation", "Whole federation is down due to a protocol flaw", "EMP destroyed all datacenters on earth", "XMPP.org has been sold to <winner>"... oh maybe not these last ones :-)
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  359. rob Or for really important things, I guess
  360. Licaon_Kter croax: you can email still after emp?
  361. rob Licaon_Kter: only on our loRa mesh
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  365. croax Licaon_Kter: you could dig out some military equipments in a bunker which provide access a telnet console... probably more difficult to get an XMPP client!
  366. Licaon_Kter `talk` then
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  369. moparisthebest "Whole federation is down due to a protocol flaw" sorry that's a matrix-only feature 🤣️
  370. moparisthebest (I'm not joking/exagerating https://matrix.org/blog/2021/06/30/security-update-synapse-1-37-1-released )
  371. 512 oof
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  373. Martin > memory explosions, I only knew about exploding laptop batteries…
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  389. rozzin > you could dig out some military equipments in a bunker which provide access a telnet console... probably more difficult to get an XMPP client! I think there may actually be a lot of military use of XMPP....
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  391. rob That would be neat
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  409. 512bit how are the XMPP addresses hidden? is our msgs routed through the room moderators' xmpp servers
  410. moparisthebest through the MUC server yes
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  422. Ellenor Malik the MUC server exposes addresses to moderators
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  485. 512bit how would you DM someone your address?
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  491. Licaon_Kter You can private message in most MUCs 512bit
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  497. Martin > I think there may actually be a lot of military use of XMPP.... Isn't that stanag thing also used by military?
  498. Ellenor Malik Stanag?
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  500. croax 512bit: you can DM someone through the MUC without knowledge of his address (JID) but using his nick. Send your JID using this way.
  501. 512bit /msg croax yo test
  502. 512bit wait oops
  503. Ellenor Malik :)
  504. croax Oh sorry Licaon_Kter actually I though you were referring to cryptography while it was their nick!
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  509. Martin Ellenor Malik: > Stanag? https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0365.html
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  511. croax 512bit: Address (if using raw protocol, but should RTM of your client) is mucname@hostmuc/nick
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  515. Martin Also regarding military use: https://www.isode.com/markets/military-xmpp.html
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  523. rob Weird, federated muc's
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  528. Ellenor Malik Something we must make
  529. Ellenor Malik Something we must remake
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  555. rob It would be pretty cool
  556. rob But also a bit matrix like
  557. rob Would we be replicating the entire history?
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  561. Ellenor Malik Maybe, maybe not
  562. Ellenor Malik from the point the federation was established, sure
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  594. rob That would be ideal I think. Just as each participant joins, maybe parties should honor the origin constraints for things like retention
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  657. 512 sounds cool
  658. 512 sounds cool
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