XMPP Service Operators - 2021-07-05

Many administrators have high expectations for donations and low expectations against the complexities that can arise

404.city: that's odd

> the whole pix-art/blabber project seems to be run very unprofessionally I disagree that the blabber was a non-professional team. They had reasons to do what they did.

> Many administrators have high expectations for donations and low expectations against the complexities that can arise Would you mind to elaborate what you mean by that?

404.city: > I disagree that the blabber was a non-professional team. They had reasons to do what they did. ...that can't be shared here?

So if professional and can't disclosed, means imminent life threatening or blackmail. Well, operators better keep anonymity! ✏

or, y’know, maybe just what they said. private reasons.

maybe they got triplets and simply don’t have the time anymore to maintain the service

jonas’: no time to create 3 more accounts? :-)

I don’t have first hand experience, but *hear* that there might be more involved beyond provisioning XMPP accounts :)

that indeed is quite odd and meh

I'm quite fine with private reasons. What I find strange is that they announced the end in their support MUCs and on the website, but refused to send a message to all users. A large portion of users were (supposedly) hit by surprise. ✏

millesimus: 👍

But they automated it through a bot in their support MUC.. Off course no one gives reasons in bot replies....

automsg to all users is not automated?

plus it'd be noticed by much more users ✏

bit late

why not even a motd message it baffles me

> 05.07.21 19:34:03 - mdosch.de: Establishing a secure connection from mdosch.de to push.tigase.im failed. Certificate hash: a74beaa4026368f841ca051880a0706b59ae00ba344526680d28415ff37949bb. Error with certificate 0: certificate has expired. Wojtek ^

"oh no"

Time to advertise observe.jabber.network?

Martin, go ahead ;)

@Martin ``` wojtek@atlantiscity.local ~/dev $ openssl s_client -connect tigase.me:5269 -xmpphost push.tigase.im < /dev/null -starttls xmpp-server | openssl x509 -noout -dates depth=2 C = US, O = Internet Security Research Group, CN = ISRG Root X1 verify return:1 depth=1 C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3 verify return:1 depth=0 CN = tigase.im verify return:1 DONE notBefore=Jun 27 22:49:58 2021 GMT notAfter=Sep 25 22:49:57 2021 GMT ```

TIL -dates, nice

odd

there was a hiccup when older certificate was loaded but it was already addressed...

thx.

Wojtek: But… might I interest you in https://observe.jabber.network? :D

good idea, I'll send the e-mail ✏

Great. 😃

o.j.n is the main reason the jabber.org cert won't be expired in a couple of hours