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  5. [czar] Any trashserver admin here?
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  88. Licaon_Kter qy: lol, nope
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  91. millesimus [czar]: try xmpp:admin@trashserver.net (https://trashserver.net/en/contact/)
  92. Licaon_Kter Yup, but I don't remember getting any answers in the past
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  311. zp1.net It is a german server with ecological ambitions as i can read. I first thought it is a "trash metal" server. But looks like the word "trash" has a new meaning.
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  314. Holger Then again it's the admin of metalhead.club 🙂
  315. kuba_ https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chatcontrol-european-parliament-approves-mass-surveillance-of-private-communications/
  316. Holger Anyway he's definitely a nice guy, knows what he's doing, and has been doing it for ages. Wouldn't have expected Licaon_Kter to see no response.
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  318. Licaon_Kter I did have, my bad, I looked at my chat and totally ignore those red bubble ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  320. Licaon_Kter Yes, it's a good server :)
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  327. Holger 🙂
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  349. zp1.net kuba_: the eu parlament can not vote something like that because private communication is secret because of a fundamental right. You first have to abolish the fundamental right to put a parliamentary right above it.
  350. kuba_ they already have
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  354. zp1.net That may be, the eu parliament can do what it wants. The law will always be ignored in court because judges know the fundamental rights. There are many eu laws that are systematically ignored in court because a superior law is stronger.
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  357. zp1.net Just one example: what do you do with notaries? Another example: is encryption illegal?
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  363. Licaon_Kter Not illegal, if the proper backdoor for the good guys is available. :)
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  367. zp1.net Surveillance of private communications is a dream as old as socialism itself. First the national socialists dreamed of it, then the global socialists, and now the communists.
  368. jonas’ please stick to the topic
  369. Licaon_Kter https://www.chatcontrol.eu/
  370. zp1.net https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_rights
  371. zp1.net There is a right to privacy
  372. zp1.net jonas’: ssss
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  386. 4223 (private) > Surveillance of private communications is a dream as old as socialism itself. First the national socialists dreamed of it, then the global socialists, and now the communists. I see more capitalist/imperialist/facist (name it like u like) which like surveillance, than others ever have done.
  387. jonas’ discussion of political systems and what they like or don’t like is off-topic
  388. 4223 (private) A real socialist/communist country never exists. Maybe Paris Commune.
  389. jonas’ please stop it right here.
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  499. Martin > It is a german server with ecological ambitions as i can read. I first thought it is a "trash metal" server. But looks like the word "trash" has a new meaning. > It is a german server with ecological ambitions as i can read. I first thought it is a "trash metal" server. But looks like the word "trash" has a new meaning. So he probably knows it's thrash metal not trash metal… 😇
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  501. Martin > please stick to the topic Sorry
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  814. zp1.net The "jabber.org" certificate expired on 05 Jul 2021
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  817. kuba_ https://xmpp.404.city:5280/usershare/92c4817320d193f297fb9a4209aa60b4c92e7784/XaOSO8vNGCtWrqJogTPx2vfc5cw57Dfm7aDocSIG/TfPbt6-FQtGTvJALFfi-6A.jpg
  818. me9 It's also expired for me.
  819. Ellenor Malik MattJ: Hello!
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  830. zp1.net jabber.org has address 208.68.163.218 ->> this one expired www.jabber.org is an alias for jabber2.github.io. ->> this one works
  831. Ellenor Malik _xmpp-server.jabber.org?
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  839. stpeter zp1.net - I'm not seeing what you're seeing...
  840. stpeter zp1.net - I am seeing "expires on October 3, 2021" when I connect to jabber.org
  841. stpeter (I am connecting from a client, not a server.)
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  843. Ellenor Malik > moparisthebest wrote: > missing a _tcp in there oh.
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  845. kuba_ > jabber.org has address 208.68.163.218 ->> this one expired > www.jabber.org is an alias for jabber2.github.io. ->> this one works correct
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  869. stpeter How are you folks checking the cert for 208.68.163.218? I am connected via xmpp (c2s) and it's fine, no warnings, expires in October.
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  874. moparisthebest stpeter, I think he means `curl -v https://jabber.org` it only serves a redirect to www.jabber.org but that cert indeed expired July 5th
  875. stpeter oh hmm
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  878. moparisthebest looks like an Apache server running on 208.68.163.218
  879. stpeter Yeah, all that does is redirect to www.jabber.org
  880. stpeter For very old historical reasons, we don't offer the jabber.org website without www because we didn't want to run an http daemon on the same machine running the xmpp daemon.
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  946. 404.city stpeter‎: jabber.org is old version of ejabberd? Maybe For this reason, errors occur
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  980. stpeter Well, I can restart the server again to see if that forces the new cert to be applied.
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