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  1080. me9 Are there any current problems woth jabber.fr and accessing mucs?
  1081. me9 Are there any current problems with jabber.fr and accessing mucs?
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  1083. Wuuko > me9 wrote: > Are there any current problems with jabber.fr and accessing mucs? Yes
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  1085. me9 And something else: Why did some people get member status here? Wasn't this a "monarchy" just some days ago?
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  1087. me9 Wuuko: I am not asking you but the admins.
  1088. me9 Like Link Mauve.
  1089. stpeter Unsure, although typically we don't like to have only one admin because of the bus factor.
  1090. stpeter In any case it's not like there's a power structure here, we're just people chatting about XMPP stuff.
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  1092. me9 stpeter: Yeah ok. But I'm more intrested in why there are more members. And why only some people? Or am I misremembrering?
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  1094. stpeter I'm not sure what you mean by "members" - in my client I see only "moderators" and "participants"
  1095. moparisthebest me9, I *think* people who the bot detects are actual server admins are automatically made member, and it was due to some spam in days past
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  1097. stpeter moparisthebest: ah, interesting
  1098. me9 Ok. I'm not tho. Yet. :D
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  1100. me9 Amd jow should a bot detect your server-admin status? Only if you used the contact JID, I guess.
  1101. moparisthebest me9, do you have this set up https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0157.html
  1102. me9 And how should a bot detect your server-admin status? Only if you used the contact JID of your server here, I guess.
  1103. me9 I though :)
  1104. me9 Again, me bee no admin.
  1105. me9 > I wrote: > I though :) *thought
  1106. moparisthebest yes, if your JID is in the list returned by XEP-0157 query
  1107. me9 Uh.
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  1110. me9 I'm confused now.
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  1118. me9 > I wrote: > Are there any current problems with jabber.fr and accessing mucs? I see it now, in their support muc. But sadly only in French.
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  1120. stpeter Well, it *is* jabber.FR after all. ;-)
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  1125. me9 I know.
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  1145. mathieui me9: our hosting providers main uplink is down and tonight is a busy maintenance night for them
  1146. mathieui Instability may last all night
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  1149. me9 mathieui: Ok, thanks.
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  1152. mathieui "Between 10PM and 7AM", probably French time
  1153. mathieui https://twitter.com/Ikoula/status/1420480753981435911 they are having fun at least
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  1155. Wuuko > mathieui wrote: > me9: our hosting providers main uplink is down and tonight is a busy maintenance night for them > Instability may last all night Thanks
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  1169. mathieui (FWIW: https://statut.jabberfr.org/incident/47)
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  1171. me9 > me9, I *think* people who the bot detects are actual server admins are automatically made member, and it was due to some spam in days past Can anyone tell me if this is actually what was done?
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  1178. Menel Yes it is. Matt said so.
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  1182. Menel (And I tested it and it was that way. I added this jid to the support account and became member) But it doesn't really matter, everyone can talk here. Its only if there is spam or something, an easy way to stop it temporary is to grant voice temporary to members only
  1183. Menel > MattJ "It's based on the contact addresses advertised by your server: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html" > 12:13:35 > throughaway123 "> The primary focus of this channel is for XMPP server operators to discuss with each other the XMPP network. " https://logs.xmpp.org/operators/2021-06-22?p=h Time: 12:12:25
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  1191. Menel Now I'm confused about the difference between xep-0152 and 0157, but thats for another day...
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  1219. me9 Menel: Ok, well. I guess I'm an admin then.
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  1222. me9 Menel: Ok, well. I guess I'm an XMPP service operator then.
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  1227. me9 > Menel wrote: > (And I tested it and it was that way. I added this jid to the support account and became member) > But it doesn't really matter, everyone can talk here. Its only if there is spam or something, an easy way to stop it temporary is to grant voice temporary to members only That sure is a very effective way to stop spam and it doesn't really matter if it works. But if I became member without owning any server, will others too? So there's something wrong or an admin here just accidentaly made me a member or something. Sorry, but I'm really confused.
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  1239. Ellenor Malik How is it decided who is and is not an administrator?
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