XMPP Service Operators - 2021-07-28


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    got spam from bandiitka5@conversations.im

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    edhelas: Thanks, the account is suspended, now.

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  1080. me9

    Are there any current problems woth jabber.fr and accessing mucs?

  1081. me9

    Are there any current problems with jabber.fr and accessing mucs?

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  1083. Wuuko

    > me9 wrote: > Are there any current problems with jabber.fr and accessing mucs? Yes

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  1085. me9

    And something else: Why did some people get member status here? Wasn't this a "monarchy" just some days ago?

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  1087. me9

    Wuuko: I am not asking you but the admins.

  1088. me9

    Like Link Mauve.

  1089. stpeter

    Unsure, although typically we don't like to have only one admin because of the bus factor.

  1090. stpeter

    In any case it's not like there's a power structure here, we're just people chatting about XMPP stuff.

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  1092. me9

    stpeter: Yeah ok. But I'm more intrested in why there are more members. And why only some people? Or am I misremembrering?

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  1094. stpeter

    I'm not sure what you mean by "members" - in my client I see only "moderators" and "participants"

  1095. moparisthebest

    me9, I *think* people who the bot detects are actual server admins are automatically made member, and it was due to some spam in days past

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  1097. stpeter

    moparisthebest: ah, interesting

  1098. me9

    Ok. I'm not tho. Yet. :D

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  1100. me9

    Amd jow should a bot detect your server-admin status? Only if you used the contact JID, I guess.

  1101. moparisthebest

    me9, do you have this set up https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0157.html

  1102. me9

    And how should a bot detect your server-admin status? Only if you used the contact JID of your server here, I guess.

  1103. me9

    I though :)

  1104. me9

    Again, me bee no admin.

  1105. me9

    > I wrote: > I though :) *thought

  1106. moparisthebest

    yes, if your JID is in the list returned by XEP-0157 query

  1107. me9

    Uh.

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  1110. me9

    I'm confused now.

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  1118. me9

    > I wrote: > Are there any current problems with jabber.fr and accessing mucs? I see it now, in their support muc. But sadly only in French.

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  1120. stpeter

    Well, it *is* jabber.FR after all. ;-)

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  1125. me9

    I know.

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  1145. mathieui

    me9: our hosting providers main uplink is down and tonight is a busy maintenance night for them

  1146. mathieui

    Instability may last all night

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  1149. me9

    mathieui: Ok, thanks.

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  1152. mathieui

    "Between 10PM and 7AM", probably French time

  1153. mathieui

    https://twitter.com/Ikoula/status/1420480753981435911 they are having fun at least

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  1155. Wuuko

    > mathieui wrote: > me9: our hosting providers main uplink is down and tonight is a busy maintenance night for them > Instability may last all night Thanks

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  1169. mathieui

    (FWIW: https://statut.jabberfr.org/incident/47)

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  1171. me9

    > me9, I *think* people who the bot detects are actual server admins are automatically made member, and it was due to some spam in days past Can anyone tell me if this is actually what was done?

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  1178. Menel

    Yes it is. Matt said so.

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  1182. Menel

    (And I tested it and it was that way. I added this jid to the support account and became member) But it doesn't really matter, everyone can talk here. Its only if there is spam or something, an easy way to stop it temporary is to grant voice temporary to members only

  1183. Menel

    > MattJ "It's based on the contact addresses advertised by your server: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html" > 12:13:35 > throughaway123 "> The primary focus of this channel is for XMPP server operators to discuss with each other the XMPP network. " https://logs.xmpp.org/operators/2021-06-22?p=h Time: 12:12:25

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  1191. Menel

    Now I'm confused about the difference between xep-0152 and 0157, but thats for another day...

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  1219. me9

    Menel: Ok, well. I guess I'm an admin then.

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  1222. me9

    Menel: Ok, well. I guess I'm an XMPP service operator then.

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  1227. me9

    > Menel wrote: > (And I tested it and it was that way. I added this jid to the support account and became member) > But it doesn't really matter, everyone can talk here. Its only if there is spam or something, an easy way to stop it temporary is to grant voice temporary to members only That sure is a very effective way to stop spam and it doesn't really matter if it works. But if I became member without owning any server, will others too? So there's something wrong or an admin here just accidentaly made me a member or something. Sorry, but I'm really confused.

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  1239. Ellenor Malik

    How is it decided who is and is not an administrator?

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